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This is the wedge issue that splits Latin America and East Asia away from the usual consensus

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[-] kleeon@hexbear.net 52 points 9 months ago

what is meant by "shoes" here? Like, do people in the US walk around their homes in same shoes they wear outside?

[-] RollaD20@hexbear.net 44 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Yeah a lot of houses will wear outside shoes inside. There is a decent number of people who don't do shoes in the house, though.

[-] kleeon@hexbear.net 57 points 9 months ago

that is just deeply disturbing to me

[-] RollaD20@hexbear.net 27 points 9 months ago

you get kind of used to it, but yeah I don't wear shoes in my house and never have lmao

[-] KobaCumTribute@hexbear.net 14 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

I've always associated removing shoes at a house with like, upper middle class suburbanites and overbearing religious sorts, because those are the only ones I ever saw expect it growing up.

[-] RollaD20@hexbear.net 13 points 9 months ago

I find that with bougie surbanites its like a flip of a coin if they do or don't take off shoes. I've mostly seen it in Asian households tbh.

[-] YearOfTheCommieDesktop@hexbear.net 23 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

I live here and: its bad.

I'm going to end up being one of the "overbearing" people that insists people take their shoes off I think, as I get older. I had a few people over and none of them took their shoes off this summer and they tracked dirt and shit all over that I then had to clean up. And I'm definitely no neat freak, not at all, but I don't want rocks and dirt and road salt and puddles and etc all over my floors, I walk on those floors, mostly barefoot or in socks.

maybe its less bad in places that don't get much snow or rain and have perfectly manicured sidewalks (lol) but idk that still means trashing your floors or carpets with grit and tracking nasty road dust inside and such, I don't get why anyone would ever lol

I take my shoes off even when people insist I don't have to, unless its somehow so dirty that I really need them. it's just wrong lol, They don't know where my shoes have been

I think maybe it comes from many people in the US driving everywhere. Your shoes only touch the parking lot/driveway, and only briefly, whats the big deal. If you're only ever going from your own garage to another indoor parking garage even moreso.

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[-] nat_turner_overdrive@hexbear.net 9 points 9 months ago

I am sitting at my desk inside wearing boots, and I'll do it again

[-] borlax@hexbear.net 23 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Exactly… it wasn’t until I lived on my own in more culturally diverse areas that I realized how gross it is and made my home a shoes off home.

I’ve also moved towards changing my clothes before getting comfortable in my own house. I don’t want outside clothes on my couch. This is a little unrealistic if you host people, but I still operate like that for myself.

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[-] Awoo@hexbear.net 37 points 9 months ago

Shoes On is not the norm in the UK this map is so fucking wrong lmao.

It's Shoes Off literally everywhere in the country.

[-] alexandra_kollontai@hexbear.net 8 points 9 months ago

Aus and NZ are also wrong on the map lol

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[-] came_apart_at_Kmart@hexbear.net 34 points 9 months ago

i grew up disgusting and repulsive, a flea-bitten, mud-eating barbarian without literacy or language, but my direct and amicable exposure to the peoples of western asia and the far east reformed me greatly.

i now use a bidet and take my shoes off in the house.

[-] usernamesaredifficul@hexbear.net 31 points 9 months ago

I have never been in an English house where they didn't tell you to take your shoes off

[-] hexaflexagonbear@hexbear.net 14 points 9 months ago

I also don't know any French people who consider shoes off to be rude. Guessing it's regional. I think England and Northern France also have the type of climate where shoes off is just more practical

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[-] Phen@lemmy.eco.br 28 points 9 months ago

It's definitely not rude to go shoes off in Brazil. While most people keep their shoes on, they'll also default to taking it off when visiting someone they don't know the habits of.

[-] Kuori@hexbear.net 25 points 9 months ago

if you leave your shoes on when you walk into my home i'm handing you a mop and broom and putting you to work

[-] commiewithoutorgans@hexbear.net 24 points 9 months ago

From my experience in Germany, the Netherlands and Belgium, this is a terrible map lol. I've never been in a house that asked me to take shoes off in those countries. I usually do because I find it nasty as shit to walk around with shoes and hate when people do at my house (I pretty much only let friends with high shoes/heels during events, because that's something they are actively trying to do to their image). But the fact that those countries aren't blue or green is very suspicious.

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[-] PortugueseDragon@hexbear.net 22 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

I don't know who made the map, but at least where I'm from in Portugal, growing up I was always told to take my shoes off when entering the house and I rarely see other people not take them off when entering.

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[-] FuckyWucky@hexbear.net 21 points 9 months ago
[-] DragonBallZinn@hexbear.net 29 points 9 months ago

You jest, but at thanksgiving my WASP relatives who were hosting actually insisted I wore my shoes in their house, it's kinda weird but ok.

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[-] LaGG_3@hexbear.net 13 points 9 months ago

With all the green in South and Central America, I'm blaming the Iberians for this.

[-] TupamarosShakur@hexbear.net 19 points 9 months ago

shoes on is the norm, but some homes prefer shoes on

lol, better keep those shoes on i guess stalin-gun-1 stalin-gun-2

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[-] joaomarrom@hexbear.net 19 points 9 months ago

do they consider flip flops or slippers shoes? that's the only way in which a normal person might wear shoes at home in Brazil, and most people, as somebody else has mentioned here already, default to removing their shoes as soon as they go inside anyone's home - it's not even a class thing, everybody just does it

the closest I get to that is during the coldest days in winter when I might wear a pair of crocs to warm my feet, but that's already highly unusual and I feel incredibly weird doing it

[-] huf@hexbear.net 13 points 9 months ago

indoor shoes are a different thing, of course you can wear them indoors

[-] LaGG_3@hexbear.net 18 points 9 months ago

Who are the freaks in Canada, Greenland, South Africa, and Madagascar who wear shoes in the house?

[-] hexaflexagonbear@hexbear.net 10 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

In Canada? Probably American ex-pats tbh. Can't emphasize how little sense shoes on makes like half the year, there's mud and slush everywhere.

[-] emelia@hexbear.net 17 points 9 months ago

Interesting point, however there's a typo in the label for blue.

[-] Tachanka@hexbear.net 17 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

i grew up in a apartment complex in a warm wet part of the US with carpets where nobody bothered to take their fucking shoes off. It was infuriating. I now have tile floors and I still can't get people to listen to me and take their damn shoes off but at least I can mop it all up on Sundays.

[-] SkingradGuard@hexbear.net 14 points 9 months ago

Just hit them with a "Shoes off or gulag" stalin-gun-1stalin-gun-2

[-] Tachanka@hexbear.net 17 points 9 months ago
[-] MarxGuns@hexbear.net 14 points 9 months ago

Yeah, this is how you know I'm a red.

[-] polskilumalo@lemmygrad.ml 14 points 9 months ago

Oh I remember when I first learned about Americans having a shoes on norm in their homes.

I've yet to recover from that initial feeling of disgust.

[-] FloridaBoi@hexbear.net 13 points 9 months ago

I take my shoes off at mine and other people’s houses because my toes yearn for freedom

[-] InevitableSwing@hexbear.net 13 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

I had no idea there would be so much red. Russia and nearly all of Africa were a surprise to me.

[-] LaGG_3@hexbear.net 16 points 9 months ago

My dumb brain thinks Russia = cold = snow, and snow = dirty/wet shoes and boots, so shoes off.

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[-] citrussy_capybara@hexbear.net 13 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)
[-] PM_ME_YOUR_FOUCAULTS@hexbear.net 13 points 9 months ago

Damn, I forgot that comm existed

[-] mathemachristian@lemm.ee 12 points 9 months ago

Germany in the good shade of the map???

[-] PM_ME_YOUR_FOUCAULTS@hexbear.net 32 points 9 months ago

Proof that immigrants have finally brought civilization to the Teutons along with delicious doner kebab

[-] mathemachristian@lemm.ee 9 points 9 months ago
[-] electric_nan@lemmy.ml 9 points 9 months ago

Kebab isn't but falafel and hummus are! When I've traveled in North/West Europe, I found kebab shops were a reliable source of cheap vegan food.

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[-] a_blanqui_slate@hexbear.net 12 points 9 months ago

The entire point of Mr. Rodger's Neighborhood is that you should have different shoes for inside and outside jesus christ.

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[-] TawnyFroggy@hexbear.net 11 points 9 months ago

I'm American and I've never been anywhere where people where shoes on in the house. But I'm from a swamp in the midwest so maybe it's a warm/dry climate thing or maybe a rich-person-with-maid thing?

[-] shath@hexbear.net 11 points 9 months ago

i hate shoes i hate shoes i hate shoes i hate shoes

[-] LemonGrease@hexbear.net 9 points 9 months ago
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