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It's not like they haven't had every second of hte entire cold war to watch what happens to America's proxy forces from the inside.
they actually thought to spend the money on defense instead of running away with all of it
I'm sure Zelensky has actually run away with at least some of it.
America worshippers aren't the brightest bunch. I'm sure there were Ukrainians that could see what was happening and I feel a great amount of empathy for them. The ones posting in English on Twitter about how the orcs will be wiped out? Not an ounce of it.
Especially the ones who told me I was dumb for saying republicans were gonna fuck them over and they scolded me for "lying about my fellow americans and being delusional"
Fucking told you so, again
Damn, it's almost like the US treated this war as a closeout sale of its old military hardware.
To be an enemy of the US is dangerous, but to be a friend is fatal
Words said by one of the deadest guys there's ever been.
Lmao what a fucking baby brain you would have to have to write that tweet
One step closer to a NATO country getting 9/11'd by Azov.
Is it wrong of me to hope 
is their first target?
It'll probably be Poland or Hungary IMO. Been seeing a lot of chatter about the "backstabbing Poles" on pro Ukr Twitter.
I wonder how much more fascist Hungary is going to get if a Ukrainian refugee does a terrorist attack against them.
that might not make it that much more fascist, since it'd confirm that orban has been right about ukraine. it'd strengthen the regime, so why up the pressure?
then again, he could do it just for fun...
Has Orban been warning about the refugees from Ukraine? I thought he mostly just wanted the war to end so that the EU would get off his ass about his "support" for Putin, and because he recognized that Ukraine is absolutely not winning that war, so why prolong the inevitable. But Orban's way of thinking is quite hard for me to understand, since everything Danish media writes about him is "big bad Putin fanboy wants to strangle kittens, just like Putin"
i live here and i no longer really understand what his plan is, apart from the basics: build up a national burgeois/oligarch class which he can control, to protect his racket from international oligarchs (so putin's plan), and try to "fish in muddy waters", somehow navigating between EU/NATO, russia and china, thereby hoping to have some freedom of movement.
also do as much fascism as necessary while fighting on two political fronts, against the eu-lib types AND the frothing fascist types. but this too is like putin.
now i really dont know how he plans to actually continue this indefinitely, because unlike russia, hungary has absolutely nothing.
Didn't Hungary used to have a massive manufacturing base that could conceivably be recreated, if the conditions were right? Or is Orban (much like Putin) too much of a liberal to ever do industrial policy like a 20th century leader, instead of whatever neoliberal bullshit that most countries do today.
we still have some manufacturing i think, assembling autoparts for germany, assembling batteries for some chinese company, that sort of thing.
maybe we're somewhat coming out of the massive slump that came when the soviet market collapsed, but i dont think the profits get invested locally...
I feel like I always need to say it, but a Ukrainian plane dotted in swastikas will fly into the palace of culture and sciences.
"I really though the country that skipped town on Afghanistan in the dead of night was in it for the long haul with me..."
10 words too many in that tweet
but.... we are white......
tbf who the fuck else were they gonna turn to, not a whole lot of other rich parties alligned against Russia willing to throw down cash, the real thing he should be saying is this is why you should never give up your nukes. No matter what they promise you, do not under any circumstances give away your nuclear weapons. Unless you're Isreal then you should definitely give up your nukes, ignore what I just said.
also dont shell your own citizens for years when there's a stronger neighbor willing to defend them... but i guess it's a super easy mistake to make.
That's overly reductive and I don't care to have a conversation about it because it will provide nothing of value. If you took everything RT/Sputnik reports at face value then sure that's definitely what happened, the shelling started in a vacuum, they just started doing it for no reason at all other than their hate for Russophones, but I think that's a whole lot of cope. I don't support any of the millitary actions Russia or Ukraine has taken including the shelling, but I'm also not naive about what was going on leading up to it. Ideally the USSR would have stayed together to avoid all this mess which I think we both agree on.
They can align with Russia, the country they share a border and language with.
I'm talking about after they are invaded clearly and I think boiling it down to language is a bit reductive, I think the USSR shouldn't have been illegally dissolved, but I also think that that doesn't give Russia permission to bully it's former soviet neighbors bc of "spheres of influence" because it ended up being the biggest soviet republic post split I'm not John Mearshimer, I don't think "Russia should have "spheres of influence" because America does" there shouldn't be any. I do think if Ukraine kept it's nukes that Russia would not have invaded recently or in 2014, I'm sure there would have been tension, but I don't think there would have been any major millitary action if they were both nuclear states.
I'm sorry but who didn't see this coming the second Russia didn't get steamrolled
Literally the first president advised future leaders to abandon allies whenever they stop serving American interests. Voteball fans should’ve learned this rule before they started playing
this post was submitted on 21 Dec 2023
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