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submitted 10 months ago by DevCat@lemmy.world to c/politics@lemmy.world

The new year could be off to a rough start for Donald Trump.

The former president is facing $250 million in penalties and a ban on doing business in New York when the judge overseeing his civil fraud trial delivers a verdict in the case later in January.

The Manhattan Supreme Court trial — which has been on hiatus since Dec. 13 — is set to resume with closing arguments on Jan. 11, and Justice Arthur Engoron has said he hopes to have a decision in the non-jury case by the end of the month.

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[-] Tremble@sh.itjust.works 61 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

As a former president with a pension of 220k per year among other amenities he will still be in the top 1% regardless

But I imagine he won’t be very happy regardless, being taken off the Forbes list and all lol

[-] CobblerScholar@lemmy.world 32 points 10 months ago

If its the only lawsuit he loses and dear God let's hope it isnt

[-] grue@lemmy.world 27 points 10 months ago

Here's hoping they garnish it.

[-] originalucifer@moist.catsweat.com 38 points 10 months ago

can this guy come up with 250m at the drop of a hat? this almost feels like a consequence he might maybe possibly feel.

[-] xor@sh.itjust.works 27 points 10 months ago

yep! with a check signed "Jared Kushner"

[-] Telorand@reddthat.com 23 points 10 months ago

I doubt it, because all of his business assets will be sold off as part of the judgement. Additionally, he can't just sell things off without the special monitor approving the transactions.

[-] ripcord@lemmy.world 26 points 10 months ago

he can't just sell things off without the special monitor approving the transactions.

And yet he seems to keep doing that and getting away with it.

I'll believe it when I see real actual consequences.

Hopefully that's soon.

[-] SkybreakerEngineer@lemmy.world 14 points 10 months ago

Friendly reminder that Alex Jones has been liable for $1.5b since July 2022, has also had a special monitor, and has also been spending lavishly without giving his victims a single cent.

[-] arc@lemm.ee 2 points 10 months ago

I'm guessing not, especially with half his empire in administration. I wonder if Trump is already secretly in talks to flog some of his other properties like his golf courses. I'm sure Scotland and Ireland would be glad to see the back of his malign presence.

[-] YurkshireLad@lemmy.ca 34 points 10 months ago

He could sell Maralago, apparently it’s worth eleventy bazillion dollars.

[-] vexikron@lemmy.zip 14 points 10 months ago

Or really put his money where his mouth is and actually sell the Trump Brand rights themselves.

I'm /sure/ that's not overvalued at all.

[-] mriguy@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

The thing is, MBS could step in and buy the rights for a lot of money to help him out, then Trump could go “see, it was worth exactly what I said it was!” The Saudis were willing to write off enough money to Musk to help him kill Twitter just to watch it die - they can afford it.

[-] Rice_Daddy@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago

That would still only be a part of his problem though. His trouble was also that the information he put down were factually inaccurate, and he used different valuations for his tax forms.

[-] Furbag@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

"Your Honor, I was on the solid gold toilet this morning and I felt a new valuation coming. Or possibly a sudden bowel movement. Anyway, based on market factors that I can't possibly explain to you and my own mood and feelings, I'm valuing Mar-A-Lago at one gorillion dollars. This is actually a lowball price, so I'm certain there's no need to get an appraisal. You can trust me, I know a thing or two about real estate. Bigly."

[-] TheJims@lemmy.world 33 points 10 months ago

The Trump name is synonymous with fraud

[-] Burn_The_Right@lemmy.world 22 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

His campaign will have his voting base pay for this. They would do anything for their orange king. They donated $200 Mil to him the month after his 2020 loss.

[-] cordlesslamp@lemmy.today 13 points 10 months ago

Saw some post back then about people donating their life's saving to Trump. Always thought those are just jokes or memes, but now I'm not so sure anymore.

[-] A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago

I dont think it was a joke, I think its actually happened.

Some voluntarily

Some not so voluntarily, cause some of the donation links they set up were recurring donation links (which they told no one about being recurring) so if you donated like..200, then it'd pull 200 every month from you. IIRC there was a legal case about it and i think they had to refund?

Its hard to keep track of all the legal cases hes been involved in.

[-] Arete@lemmy.world 12 points 10 months ago

Smart move might be selling Trump Tower, rather than move money into New York that would otherwise be difficult to seize. I think his ownership stake is worth about $250 million.

[-] fadhl3y@lemmy.world 15 points 10 months ago

I don't think that is possible. An injunction granted in 2022 prevented him from liquidating assets and transferring wealth out of state. I believe the court has also appointed a special master specifically to scrutinize any transaction made by the Trump Organization, with a view to specifically preventing any suspicious transfer.

[-] Vaggumon@lemm.ee 7 points 10 months ago

He will just appeal it a million times till someone who wants to suck his dick overturns it.

[-] supercriticalcheese@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago

This is the appeal as far as I am aware. there is no more appeals after this one.

[-] Rapidcreek@lemmy.world 4 points 10 months ago

Actually, it could be a lot more than that.

[-] arc@lemm.ee 4 points 10 months ago

I have to wonder how he'd pay the fine given that his NY businesses will be under administration. What else is he going to have to sell to pay it off? And I don't see banks being very amenable to Trump if he has a massive fine looming. Wouldn't be surprised if he pulls some bankruptcy BS, not to protect himself from the fine, but all the other people he's in hock to who might be wanting their money back right now.

[-] AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago

He can try to sell Mar a Lago, and any other properties he has left.

[-] arc@lemm.ee 2 points 10 months ago

Imagine the humiliation of that though. I think if they scrape up money Mar a Lago & Bedminister will be last properties they'd sell up. It'll be random condos and anything else they own outright they can shift. I wonder how many Trump branded properties they actually do own outright though.

[-] WarmSoda@lemm.ee 3 points 10 months ago

How can someone be president while not even being able to do business in every state?

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