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[-] mo_ztt@lemmy.world 230 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Like a lot of fascism, it makes perfect sense if you understand the code words. "Inserting politics" or "getting political" means expressing a disallowed opinion that should be silenced. You'll never hear this kind of language used about the approved opinions, only the to-be-silenced ones.

[-] pyromaster55@lemmy.world 75 points 10 months ago

Exactly this.

Kneeling for the anthem is inserting politics into sports, playing the anthem before the game? Not at all inserting politics into sports.

Pride night? Not allowed. First responder (read: cop) Night? Totally cool.

[-] vaultdweller013@sh.itjust.works 18 points 10 months ago

If first responder night was just fire department and EMT itd be infinitely better, fun fact a bar in my city banned that type of event since the fire chief nearly got into a fight with the police chief.

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[-] GenderNeutralBro@lemmy.sdf.org 222 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

For context, original lyrics:

Don't wanna be an American idiot
Don't want a nation under the new media
And can you hear the sound of hysteria?
The subliminal mind fuck America

Welcome to a new kind of tension
All across the alienation
Where everything isn't meant to be okay
Television dreams of tomorrow
We're not the ones who're meant to follow
For that's enough to argue

Well maybe I'm the faggot America
I'm not a part of a redneck agenda
Now everybody do the propaganda
And sing along to the age of paranoia

Welcome to a new kind of tension
All across the alienation
Where everything isn't meant to be okay
Television dreams of tomorrow
We're not the ones who're meant to follow
For that's enough to argue

Don't want to be an American idiot
One nation controlled by the media
Information age of hysteria
It's calling out to idiot America

Welcome to a new kind of tension
All across the alienation
Where everything isn't meant to be okay
Television dreams of tomorrow
We're not the ones who're meant to follow
For that's enough to argue

Super tame.

In the New Year's show, they changed "a redneck agenda" to "the MAGA agenda". Okay, little bit more explicitly partisan, but basically the same thing.

[-] pyromaster55@lemmy.world 140 points 10 months ago

And yet, as a leftist redneck, I whole heartedly approve of the change.

Feel a little more seen, even if it doesn't mean anything.

[-] ZoopZeZoop@lemmy.world 17 points 10 months ago

I've known many rednecks who were good people. If you aren't hurting people, you do you, friend! Also, chunk those punkins!

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[-] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 121 points 10 months ago

“a redneck agenda” to “the MAGA agenda”

If MAGA as a name for these people had existed then, they would have used it. They're the same people.

[-] somethingsnappy@lemmy.world 12 points 10 months ago

Hashtagnotallrednecks.

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[-] tdawg@lemmy.world 23 points 10 months ago

It's tame by today's standards but at the time it got quite a few people in a tizzy

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[-] AlienInAMask@lemmy.sdf.org 22 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

I think part of the problem (aside from people that don't ever listen to the words in songs) is less that the song/green day is apolitical in their interpretation, but more that for a lot of people the word "politics" means partisan politics. Being explicitly about a party or one of their core issues is what makes something 𝓅𝑜𝓁𝒾𝓉𝒾𝒸𝒶𝓁 to them.

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[-] Aviandelight@mander.xyz 15 points 10 months ago

Well that change in lyrics certainly got the point across. 😂

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[-] ClydapusGotwald@lemmy.world 192 points 10 months ago

It’s the rage against the machine all over again. Shows how truly dumb people are. Like do they even listen to the lyrics?

[-] GlitterInfection@lemmy.world 58 points 10 months ago

I doubt they're even real people. This sniffs of a Russian campaign.

[-] tacotroubles@lemmy.world 81 points 10 months ago

The line between russian propagandists and MAGA idiots is indistinguishable.

[-] ClydapusGotwald@lemmy.world 39 points 10 months ago

Republicans are that stupid though so I can see some being real.

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[-] Signtist@lemm.ee 17 points 10 months ago

Nah, I've got a family member who voted for trump and loves RatM. They honestly think the lyrics support conservative ideals, and advocate for violence against people who would change the country from the "good ol' days."

[-] GlitterInfection@lemmy.world 14 points 10 months ago

They just like the idea of killing in the name of. Sounds like a hoot.

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[-] Anticorp@lemmy.ml 28 points 10 months ago

I die a little inside every time someone gets offended by Money For Nothing.

[-] DScratch@sh.itjust.works 14 points 10 months ago

But he’s wearing an EAR RING AND MAKE UP!!!

That’s his own hair, for Christ sakes!!!

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[-] Smallwater@lemmy.world 26 points 10 months ago

"what did you think they were raging against? The dishwasher?"

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[-] LazyBane@lemmy.world 92 points 10 months ago

He's the one who likes

All our pretty songs and he

Likes to sing along and he

Likes to shoot his gun but he

Don't know what it means

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[-] DemBoSain@midwest.social 91 points 10 months ago

Politics? In my Green Day?

~It's~ ~more~ ~likely~ ~than~ ~you~ ~think.~

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[-] Cornpop@lemmy.world 90 points 10 months ago

It’s like they interpret music as just a noise that sounds appealing with no meaning.

[-] Blackmist@feddit.uk 45 points 10 months ago

Fuck you I won't do what you tell me!

No idea on the rest of the lyrics, something about forces and crosses. I wasn't really listening. I like crosses! Woo, Trump!

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[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 28 points 10 months ago

Hence former House Speaker and Ayn Rand-lover Paul Ryan's favorite band being Rage Against The Machine

[-] exocrinous@lemm.ee 13 points 10 months ago

This is also why the Snyder Superman movies are bad.

Superman is an illegal alien who learned the value of kindness and hard work from his adopted parents, uses his powers to help people because it's the right thing to do, and spends the time that he's not being Superman to do investigative journalism that exposes corruption.

Snyder is an objectivist who understands precisely 0% of any of that, and that's why his Superman movies completely fail to be about anything.

[-] DumbAceDragon@sh.itjust.works 11 points 10 months ago

That's how they interpret all art.

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[-] virtueisdead@lemmy.dbzer0.com 81 points 10 months ago

We found him, its the American Idiot!

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[-] Randelung@lemmy.world 77 points 10 months ago

You don't get to get away from it. MAGA politics has made life a living hell for so many people that can't get away from it, and the only thing anyone can do is confront you with it every waking moment of yours.

[-] SCB@lemmy.world 57 points 10 months ago

The joke is that the song is inherently political, even before the language change to be current, and even without that change the song is explicitly about those people anyway.

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[-] dumpsterlid@lemmy.world 45 points 10 months ago

Maybe conservatives just take a sharpie and put a comma on the album cover so it says "American, Idiot" as in they are yelling at someone that they are American and that they should have known by their ignorant angry voice.

[-] Kid_Thunder@kbin.social 39 points 10 months ago

American Idiot was already political and already critical of the Republicans. I guess all these American idiots didn't know the lyrics before?

[-] pyromaster55@lemmy.world 47 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

"He's the one

who likes all our pretty songs

and he likes to sing along

and he likes to shoot his gun

but he knows not what it means"

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[-] chocolateo@lemmy.world 23 points 10 months ago

Anyone who wants to censor culture is a fascist at their core. In a liberal democracy you can say anything but you're not immune from the consequences.

That being said these users look fake AF and we should stop pretending Twitter/x/whatever is anything but a dead forum

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[-] Mouselemming@sh.itjust.works 21 points 10 months ago

That X is pronounced "sh" right?

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[-] Bristlecone@lemmy.world 21 points 10 months ago

Incredible that they can just keep coming up with shit like this day after day, indefinitely. Truly astonishing

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[-] Crafter72@lemmy.world 20 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Guy who shocked by green day probably never existed back in 2004 or just want a piece of cake for attention. Green Day always has been political in some of their song release since Warning(?), even on The Network side project ~~am I supposed to think The Network is Green Day?~~ Am no American and enjoyed Green Day from Dookie to Revolution Radio (not really listened to them since FOaMF release).

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[-] Fleamo@lemmy.world 19 points 10 months ago

Making fun of the people who didn't like the political statement is fine, and there were plenty of high profile people to dunk on for that, but this is literally some rando this person searched up, the original tweet had basically no interactions. This could even be satire for all we know.

Effectively, if not possibly literally, nobody really said this.

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