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submitted 10 months ago by ksynwa@lemmygrad.ml to c/games@lemmygrad.ml

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[-] kredditacc@lemmygrad.ml 30 points 10 months ago

Don't trust Reuters just yet, especially when their source is anonymous. They once said that Intel was planning factory in Vietnam, then they alone said that Intel cancelled it. Their source is anonymous in both instances. And only Reuters is talking about it.

[-] bobs_guns@lemmygrad.ml 25 points 10 months ago

They targeted gamers. Gamers.

[-] LarkinDePark@lemmygrad.ml 17 points 10 months ago

The most oppressed class.

[-] BurgerPunk@hexbear.net 6 points 10 months ago

fidel-salute beat me to it.

[-] ghost_of_faso2@lemmygrad.ml 21 points 10 months ago

put the gamers into re-education centers (schools)

[-] FuckyWucky@hexbear.net 19 points 10 months ago
[-] Nakoichi@hexbear.net 18 points 10 months ago

The gamers.... they actually rose up. Huh...

shrug-outta-hecks

[-] DamarcusArt@lemmygrad.ml 18 points 10 months ago

I'm hoping this is taken as a sign by the CPC to have their youth wing engaged more actively in politics. A lot of these rules seem well meaning, but lack understanding of the things they're censoring, enabling or limiting. Party membership skews older, so it would be nice to see more active attempts at getting the youth's voices heard.

[-] RedQuestionAsker2@hexbear.net 32 points 10 months ago

This isn't an issue of not understanding situation.

They wanted to rightfully crack down on exploitative models, and porky got mad when his market started to tank. Simple as.

[-] DamarcusArt@lemmygrad.ml 18 points 10 months ago

Oh for sure, but people still reacted negatively. The idea was good, but the way it was implemented was not. That's more what I'm getting at.

[-] blakeus12@hexbear.net 4 points 10 months ago

how else could they have implemented it?

[-] darkcalling@lemmygrad.ml 2 points 10 months ago

Well they could have done it more gradually and that may have been the better move. Take 3 steps to get to each goal over a number of years with the ability to stop half-way if needed. Instead of outright going for the throat in this maybe just the ban on harmful incentive systems that force players to log in daily or fall behind. That by itself would have had western gamers cheering for the most part as aside from a few deeply in denial addicts most people don't like being controlled like that.

[-] luffyismyking@lemmygrad.ml 2 points 10 months ago

These new 'rules' are only in the phase of public consultation right now. So this is like a non-story in the first place. Also, from what I understand, the youth wing is very engaged.

[-] angrytoadnoises@lemmygrad.ml 18 points 10 months ago

That's a shame. I want someone to do something about live service games so fucking badly. Fuckin exploitative scams that specifically target those with mental health issues, gambling problems, and the neurodiverse.

[-] ksynwa@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 10 months ago

That's my angle too tbh. Big tech in general has been allowed to colonise our minds to an extent that in my opinion is criminal. Research has always lagged behind tech "innovations" and legislation has been extremely hands off. It would be nice if the tech industry is reigned in. Even stuff like GDPR feels insignificant.

[-] AmarkuntheGatherer@lemmygrad.ml 2 points 10 months ago

GDPR's first form was actually decent for what it was meant for, but that spooked tech giants, and with their lobbying (or whatever europeans call it) they poked so many holes in it that it's basically a colander with the botton cut out.

[-] bestmiaou@lemmygrad.ml 11 points 10 months ago

this is only barely a story. i have very little confidence in western news reporting on anonymous sources out of china. i am very willing to believe that this official is getting removed because of the backlash to this, as china does have a reputation for having actual consequences to fucking up their economy, but anything beyond "we aren't going to do the regulations exactly like that" is completely unfounded speculation

[-] Nakoichi@hexbear.net 11 points 10 months ago

Wait are they walking it back now?

[-] meth_dragon@hexbear.net 17 points 10 months ago

they walked it back day of

massive market rout, tencent gaming was down like 10% or something ridiculous and people just couldn't handle it

[-] LibsEatPoop@hexbear.net 12 points 10 months ago

Partly, at least. The agency responsible is “earnestly studying” public opinion to improve the proposed rules. Coupled with the firing…they might walk back a lot.

[-] luffyismyking@lemmygrad.ml 2 points 10 months ago

No, the rules weren't even implemented in the first place. It's still in the phase of public consultation.

[-] leftofthat@hexbear.net 10 points 10 months ago
[-] mughaloid@lemmygrad.ml 10 points 10 months ago

Why we have to get involved in every Chinese event and politics, that's their country and people. They will decide what's good for them.

[-] voight@hexbear.net 15 points 10 months ago

I feel it coming from Reuters, but as far as me sticking my nose into everyone's business, I learned something out of the Chinese discourse on this.

Basically they were saying Black Desert >>> gacha. Game mechanics mindlessly focused on publisher profits are not productive, think about how the consumer, industry, workers in the industry all are affected. You can just make one shitty product make a bunch of money off virtual scarcity

[-] voight@hexbear.net 12 points 10 months ago

So what I'm saying is the mouthpieces of the investing class are going to try to make a big deal about the short term effects of this change on speculation but hard to refute that this is good for the entire industry

[-] mughaloid@lemmygrad.ml -2 points 10 months ago

Who damm cares about Chinese petty politics about games and such.

[-] IceWallowCum@hexbear.net 19 points 10 months ago

Studying new types of policies and their effects? What could possibly be the use of that?

[-] mughaloid@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Does it have any concern to you and the western consumers as such ? It may be related to graft and bribe .

[-] Aquilae@hexbear.net 16 points 10 months ago

China making good changes may force western countries to catch up.

[-] redtea@lemmygrad.ml 14 points 10 months ago

If it works, it's yet another example of how China is superior to the west.

[-] ComradeSalad@lemmygrad.ml 9 points 10 months ago

Do you think that only Chinese people play Chinese games?

[-] mughaloid@lemmygrad.ml -1 points 10 months ago

No but that's their rules and people . It cannot be western centric to placate the west and non chinese

[-] ComradeSalad@lemmygrad.ml 14 points 10 months ago

What? How is removing micro transactions, and other predatory content “western centric”? That is a benefit to humanity.

[-] blakeus12@hexbear.net 17 points 10 months ago

because its a fantastic policy that benefits consumers

[-] voight@hexbear.net 12 points 10 months ago

Oh my God I keep forgetting we have Reddit here now, this rules. You're right, it's all disconnected. None of us are part of a whole

[-] mughaloid@lemmygrad.ml 5 points 10 months ago

The thing is how much we feel as a part of whole, china has its own reasons and logic to do things inside their country. It's same like western marxists talking about Xinjiang and Tibet all the time without caring about how Chinese people think about these issues or how communists of china think. There is a current anti graft inspection going on in China and a bigger genocide in Gaza. I am interested in the latter.

[-] voight@hexbear.net 10 points 10 months ago

Entertainment industries are actually really important and a matter of national security at this point for Taiwan, Japan, South Korea losing out to China's soft power.

I'd feel you if someone were trying to change the subject away from Palestine, but I have not missed a chance to follow thru on the instructions from the resistance to propagandize.

[-] voight@hexbear.net 6 points 10 months ago

I agree with you that Reuters is engaging in misdirection about China, though.

[-] voight@hexbear.net 5 points 10 months ago

Sorry for triple reply but this is like a critical point for me. We are akin to an analysis unit for the left. I know that sounds kooky and grandiose but there is literally a thread of record that has every war crime, every blasted Merkava.

This is one of the most important wells for me to travel to so I have material to propagandize about the ongoing genocide.

[-] LibsEatPoop@hexbear.net 7 points 10 months ago

Feng has in recent years represented the Chinese government at events to discuss authorities' efforts to regulate the industry, including game approvals and real-name verification requirements for gamers.

Beijing cracked down heavily on its video gaming sector in 2021, setting strict playtime limits for under 18s and suspending approvals of new video games for about eight months, citing gaming addiction concerns.

The crackdown was part of a wider regulatory tightening across several sectors, including technology and property.

The NPPA's proposed measures, which seek to curb spending and the use of rewards that encourage the playing of video games, triggered fears that authorities were once again cracking down heavily on the sector and wiped nearly $80 billion off the market value of China's two biggest gaming companies.

Five days after the rules were announced, the NPPA struck a more conciliatory tone, saying it would improve them by "earnestly studying" public views.

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