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[-] Tremble@sh.itjust.works 86 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

And he’s losing a LOT more votes from younger people for supporting the genocide of Palestinians without question.

Finding hundreds of billions of dollars without any question for more bombs that will kill more civilians, and yet never even raising a finger to fight for some of the these younger generations’ needs that were supposedly part of his agenda.

It’s not going to be pretty when Biden loses the election.

Young people don’t watch cnn msnbc fox etc… all of these networks never question the support of Palestinian genocide and unconditional support of israel.

The media young people watch question these things. Thank god

[-] aew360@lemm.ee 28 points 10 months ago

I can tell you don’t watch CNN or MSNBC because they totally are questioning things and are highly critical of Netanyahu, who is basically Israeli George W Bush. Young people can vote for who they want to vote for, but if they all toss their votes in the trash for a Russian plant like RFK Jr, I will be blaming them for the repercussions of a second Trump term as equally as I would blame his brainwashed cult.

[-] Tremble@sh.itjust.works 21 points 10 months ago

They don’t care who you blame.

[-] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 10 points 10 months ago

They also know that the blame will come with any loss, no matter how they vote.

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[-] PopOfAfrica@lemmy.world 9 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

I do watch MSNBC on occasion. They slobbed Israels knob clear up until they killed like 13,000 people. That was apparently the line.

[-] cogman@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago

I think it's around the time israel murdered the hostages in cold blood that the likes of MSNBC was like "Wait a minute... maybe israel isn't telling the truth when they say everyone killed is a Hamas soldier?"

[-] AreaSIX@lemm.ee 3 points 10 months ago

Yup, thousands of murdered brown children were fine for MSNBC, but three young Jews getting murdered while trying to surrender to their own military is where the moral outrage starts. It's pathetically transparent why they suddenly saw this as problematic.

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[-] Milk_Sheikh@lemm.ee 27 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

It was EXTREMELY cynical and transparent when the announcement of baby steps towards marijuana legalization came RIGHT as the latest polling showed a nose dive among youth support.

Because he/the DNC clearly had the power and clout to unilaterally make that move months or years ago, but didn’t feel the need to. Having the press release drop at 4:20 eastern was such a cringe ‘fellow kids’ moment designed to distract from the ongoing injustice that keeping it schedule I for decades has done to society.

[-] eletes@sh.itjust.works 19 points 10 months ago

I live in Georgia and I remember how they promised if we got both our Senate seats to turn blue they would have majority and weed would be legalized along with a third stimulus check. We beat the odds and Warnock won the special election. All of a sudden it was like an wave of amnesia and helplessness hit.

I've been waiting for them to play the legalization card again

[-] crsu@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Their interns spent a lot of time harassing people on Twitter for reminding them about the stimulus check promise. They were quick to revise the history of and gaslight you by doing some weird used car salesman math

[-] Pratai@lemmy.ca 13 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Hope the young people will enjoy having Trump as their dictator. Maybe they’ll be just dumb enough to not notice him doing anything differently on the subject.

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[-] Blackbeard@lemmy.world 9 points 10 months ago

The only way I can rationalize how much they're fucking up this response is that the party is still reeling from being painted as anti-semitic in 2012 and 2018, and they know that a bunch of Jewish Floridians are single-issue voters. I guess they think it's more important to shore up the Jewish vote in Florida than it is to shore up the youth vote elsewhere, and they're taking the position that as goes Florida, so does 2024.

[-] Tremble@sh.itjust.works 12 points 10 months ago

I know they have to make calculated decisions like this, but isn’t this kind of thing why Hillary lost, because she basically didn’t campaign at all in a few states because she assumed her support would stick with her because she deserved it and trump only had degenerate supporters

[-] Blackbeard@lemmy.world 7 points 10 months ago

To be fair, there's no single thing that explains why she lost. It was a perfect storm of fuck ups, misinformation, miscalculations, FBI interference, and chaos.

Clinton captured a huge majority of Jewish voters in 2016. She certainly dropped the ball in ignoring the Democratic Party's weak spots, all of which Trump's team targeted with laser precision. But despite her huge margin among Jews in Florida, she may have lost enough disaffected Jewish voters to lose Florida altogether. The margin was 112,911 votes, and there are around 500,000 Jews estimated to live in Florida. Could that have been the straw that broke the camel's back? Maybe.

Trump's overt pandering paid dividends in 2020, when he actually gained Jewish support in Florida, and I suspect the party sees that trend in flashing neon lights, and they're working overtime to make damn sure Biden's pro-Israel bona fides are absolutely unquestioned 10 months from now.

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[-] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 10 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Florida is a red state. It's Trump's home state, It's a winner-take-all state. Biden won't be getting any electors from Florida.

If this is indeed the strategy, it's sheer foolishness. He's taking a hit nationwide just to shore up votes in a state he won't win.

I hope we're not running to win the popular vote and lose the election. Again.

[-] Jordan117@lemmy.world 4 points 10 months ago

An anti-Semitism scandal also wrecked Labour in the last UK election.

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[-] jordanlund@lemmy.world 41 points 10 months ago

Weird they don't say who the first one was...

https://www.forbes.com/sites/siladityaray/2024/01/04/second-biden-administration-official-quits-in-protest-against-handling-of-war-in-gaza/

"Days after Israel began carrying out aerial strikes in Gaza in response to a terror attack on its territory by Hamas in early October, a senior State Department official who worked on arms transfers became the first Biden official to step down in protest. Josh Paul, who served as a director at the department’s Bureau of Political-Military Affairs, publicly announced his exit on LinkedIn in opposition to the provision of additional military aid to Israel. In his resignation letter, Paul wrote that he believed “the response Israel is taking, and with it the American support both for that response, and for the status quo of the occupation, will only lead to more and deeper suffering for both the Israeli and the Palestinian people — and is not in the long term American interest.”"

[-] PatFussy@lemm.ee 13 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Here is a tough interview with Josh on his role, why he left and his current view on other areas.

https://www.wbur.org/onpoint/2023/11/16/why-this-u-s-government-arms-dealer-resigned-over-weapon-transfers-to-israel

[-] Asafum@feddit.nl 3 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

"and is not in the long term American interest."

Nope, but it is in old man Bidens interest for that juicy juicy Zionist/Jewish/Israeli vote... He obviously doesn't think there are enough Palestinians here or people who care about them and he knows that he has us by the short hairs... It's either Bomb Money Biden or Adolf Trumpler. Man I love the American voting system.

Anyone remember the turd sandwich vs the giant douche episode? Yeah that's us every 4 goddamn years.... And no, I'm not saying they're the same, I think a giant douche is miles better than a turd sandwich...

[-] chiliedogg@lemmy.world 13 points 10 months ago

God I miss the 2008 election. Sarah Palin was a sack of crazy, but otherwise it was beautiful.

McCain, while someone I disagreed with on almost every issue, was a classy candidate who shut down unwarranted attacks on Obama's heritage and patriotism.

Dude also saved the ACA shortly before his death - acknowledging that while he didn't like it the GOP didn't have a better plan to replace it.

[-] Asafum@feddit.nl 6 points 10 months ago

A-fucking-men.

I don't know enough about McCains past to say whether he truly was "good," but from what I would see of him during that election I at least had respect for him, I can't say that about any current Republican even though there are people like Mitt Romney who has his occasional good days. I definitely questioned McCains judgement for picking Palin though lol

[-] jordanlund@lemmy.world 4 points 10 months ago

I don't think it's the Jewish vote that concerns him, it's the donations.

[-] kibiz0r@lemmy.world 21 points 10 months ago

There’s also Craig Mokhiber:

On October 28, 2023, Mokhiber stepped down as the director of the New York office of the United Nations High Commissioner for Human Rights (OHCHR), four days before he was due to retire. In his final letter to High Commissioner Volker Türk, he harshly criticized the organization's response to the war in Gaza, calling Israel's military intervention a "textbook genocide" and accusing the UN of failing to act.

But he actually started his resignation in March of 2023, citing human rights violations in the West Bank.

There’s a great interview with him here: https://youtube.com/watch?v=wiGp2mvFLY0

[-] crsu@lemmy.world 13 points 10 months ago

Everyone who thought Biden was a progressive maybe forgot or wasn't old enough to remember the reason he was Obama's running mate is because he was a DINO (democrat in name only) and that was to ground some of the electricity of Obama's campaign as first black president. Obama was seen as too radical for America with his campaign promises.

Sounds weird today but at the time MSNBC was asking questions like "is Obama black enough to be America's first black president?".

Joe Biden as a VP turned out to be a liability for Obama. So they slapped some sunglasses on him and gave him an ice cream cone to stop him from making gaffes every time someone put a mic in his face. He is managed by CAA the same organization that manages actors. His persona is all PR. All people seem to remember is this manufactured persona when his actual political career is more in line with a republican and typical for a DINO serving as long as he has.

Either way you're going to have war unless we stop consenting to madness done in our name and that includes standing up for what you believe in.

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