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[-] chungusamonugs@hexbear.net 62 points 10 months ago

Liberals wholeheartedly believe that if Russia gains an inch of territory that their next move will be to overthrow the world. If you mention that this is unreasonable and illogical, they insinuate that you're a Putin sympathizer and you want that to happen.

These are the people who claim to want peace.

[-] star_wraith@hexbear.net 45 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Putin has been in power for ~25 years. In that time, Russia has fought wars in… I think Chechnya, Georgia, and Dagestan. Small territories that were formerly part of the USSR, and for all I know it’s possible the USSR was justified in intervening or at the very least Russia’s action could not be called “imperial”. I guess there’s Syria too but the US is there too so that’s a wash.

Ukraine is the first real, full scale war Putin has launched. Still within the former borders of the USSR. And that was a war Putin tried to avoid and could have been avoided had Ukraine gone along with Minsk II and stopped shelling the Donbas.

Should we discuss all the imperialist invasions and wars the US has been in in the last 25 years?

Putin has had 25+ years to show he is imperialist and hasn’t done it yet. But libs think he’s gonna lead the Russian army to Paris if NATO dares shows any weakness.

[-] emizeko@hexbear.net 32 points 10 months ago

every accusation a projection

[-] casskaydee@hexbear.net 26 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Ukraine is also a former USSR member and the last time they "invaded" it, they were actively collaborating with the Third Reich

[-] jackmarxist@hexbear.net 26 points 10 months ago

The Soviets didn't invade Ukraine. The Ukrainian SSR was fighting alongside the Soviets against the Nazis. As much as I hate the UPA and modern Ukraine, I'll never undermine or discredit the sacrifice made by Ukrainians in saving the world from Fascism.

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[-] Tachanka@hexbear.net 33 points 10 months ago

it's always important to remember where the imperial core is, and who is dividing the world into camps (NATO) and who is responding to that division (non-NATO countries).

The Russian war in Ukraine is ultimately a side effect of the civil war in Ukraine, which is a side effect of neoliberalization of Ukraine, which is a side effect of the end of the USSR. All problems in that region stem ultimately from that event, but libs are incapable of seeing the end of the USSR as a bad thing, so they have to invent a world where former soviet nations are guilty of imperialism against NATO proxies and postcolonial countries are anti-democratic dictatorships who have to be brought in line by the "rules-based world order" (NATO).

[-] ShimmeringKoi@hexbear.net 61 points 10 months ago

Lol their ultimate limit break to prevent "another dark age" is to...voot and beg their designated TV show characters to do something

[-] TheLastHero@hexbear.net 35 points 10 months ago

they are ready to vote so fucking hard right now if they could

[-] Dolores@hexbear.net 21 points 10 months ago

running to the polling station during the sack of rome to vote out Gaiseric

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[-] LaughingLion@hexbear.net 55 points 10 months ago

the country where the missiles are manufactured only matter to liberals when russia is firing them

[-] WhatDoYouMeanPodcast@hexbear.net 28 points 10 months ago

Remember that scene in the new star wars where the guy says he sells weapons to both the empire and the rebels and then they never circle back to that plot point again? It just feels similar

irrelevant star warsRei and Kylo should have joined forces when he first offered and then become grey Jedi who tear down the Empire and the Jedi and then Darth Vader's force ghost shrugs and applauds

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[-] SkingradGuard@hexbear.net 55 points 10 months ago

We are letting North Korea win

Did I travel back in time or something? What are these liberals smoking?

[-] Drewfro66@lemmygrad.ml 54 points 10 months ago

North Korea is peacefully advancing their economy, technology, and living standards. Since they are Communists, this cannot stand. We must invade to destroy the country before they can do Communism.

[-] ThomasMuentzner@hexbear.net 31 points 10 months ago

he is offended by the tik toks he saw..

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[-] ReadFanon@hexbear.net 54 points 10 months ago

The next Dark age

Reminder that the "dark ages" is bullshit Western chauvinist mythologising of history. Which actually fits perfectly given the context of this tweet.

[-] SkeletorJesus@hexbear.net 32 points 10 months ago

The Dark Age, a time of backwardness, illiteracy, and decline. Also, when books were invented.

[-] jackmarxist@hexbear.net 31 points 10 months ago

Quite ironic considering that the dark ages were caused by the ancestors of people living in Europe right now and rest of the world was prospering during the dark ages.

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[-] ChairmanSpongebob@hexbear.net 49 points 10 months ago

please remind your congressman that we need to KILL

[-] privatized_sun@hexbear.net 26 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)
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[-] barrbaric@hexbear.net 24 points 10 months ago

Oh, he knows holden-bloodfeast

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[-] DamarcusArt@lemmygrad.ml 48 points 10 months ago

Zelenskyy should've got a FastPass™ so he could skip to the front of the line. Rookie mistake.

[-] jaeme@hexbear.net 30 points 10 months ago

Defunctproxy: The history of The Zelensky Train.

[-] iByteABit@hexbear.net 46 points 10 months ago

the year the world descended into the next dark age

I'm waiting until the world realises that we're already in the dark age and that year was 1991 not 2023

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[-] UmbraVivi@hexbear.net 46 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

everything the West has built over the past 80 years falling apart

party-sicko party-sicko party-sicko crab-party crab-party crab-party bridget-vibe bridget-vibe bridget-vibe

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[-] 420stalin69@hexbear.net 44 points 10 months ago

Born to late to join the revolution.

Born too early to colonize the stars.

Born just in time to watch the empire fall.

comfy-cool

[-] Dirt_Owl@hexbear.net 41 points 10 months ago
[-] Adkml@hexbear.net 28 points 10 months ago

Fortunately we don't have to worry about libs like this because their only solutions are writing their reps, going to "protests" at the designated time and place and then immediatly going home, and voting.

So it's not like their going to have literally any impact on anything.

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[-] fine_sandy_bottom@lemmy.dbzer0.com 40 points 10 months ago

Who are we supposed to vote for? Genocide corpse or fascist corpse?

[-] Collatz_problem@hexbear.net 39 points 10 months ago

Given the wolfsangel in their username, they are okay with fascism and genocide.

[-] the_post_of_tom_joad@hexbear.net 31 points 10 months ago

Remember, Trump would have done Gaza but even fascistier! Vote!

[-] Tunnelvision@hexbear.net 28 points 10 months ago

That genuinely seems like a high bar to step up to. Biden has done a bang up job in the genocide department it’s actually hard to think Trump could top it.

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[-] SerLava@hexbear.net 39 points 10 months ago

when Liberals are talking about geopolitical conflict and use the word "BULLIES" I want to gouge my eyes out

[-] 420stalin69@hexbear.net 22 points 10 months ago

I hear the angle, slightly more persuasively put but still the same as “bullies”, that “it’s all about the humans, I am against human suffering” which is false because it assumes the west are not actors with agency.

Too many soft leftists who believe that our society is simply responding to events rather than driving them, which is why “I am against humans suffering” is the more nuanced form of “BULLIES” that appeals to soft leftists.

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[-] wombat@hexbear.net 38 points 10 months ago

uncritical support for the DPRK in its heroic struggle to liberate occupied Korea from the genocidal American empire

[-] Evilphd666@hexbear.net 38 points 10 months ago

Why are they so obvessed with this "history" narrative?

[-] ShimmeringKoi@hexbear.net 33 points 10 months ago

Just spitballing: the validation of imagining that someone, someday, will point to their picture in a classroom and say "and these people were actually right and smart all along, but all the brainwashed people on both sides just wouldn't listen to what they had to say."

[-] ReadFanon@hexbear.net 28 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

It's always a matter of the civilised world vs the barbaric hordes to them.

They don't actually care about history. Tell them about the political philosopher Ibn Tufayl and how his works preceded the Enlightenment thinkers and was a direct influence on some of them. (I can't remember the specific details but there was an early copy of his Hayy Ibn Yaqzan the library of... maybe a mentor of Rousseau? who had definitely read the book and was a direct influence on Rousseau and then suddenly Rousseau produces Emile, which has astonishing parallels to Hayy Ibn Yaqzan although no conclusive, direct link has been established between Rousseau and Tufayl.)

Do you think they're going to be fascinated or excited to learn about this fact?

Nah, no thanks! Only Ancient Rome, Ancient Greece, and maybe whatever European history they're connected to via their heritage or their last name.

They're just interested in historical justification for telling themselves that they are heirs to civilization.

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[-] LENINSGHOSTFACEKILLA@hexbear.net 37 points 10 months ago

Personally, I love to see it. America really is spread thin right now, and its doing a great deal to show how much of a paper tiger it is.

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[-] SoyViking@hexbear.net 33 points 10 months ago

Imperialism and crypty-fascism aside, I think it is really funny how this guy is saying "Bullies and evil doesn't respond to [ineffectual milquetoast lib shit], we need to actually stand up and do [ineffectual milquetoast lib shit]!".

[-] save_vs_death@hexbear.net 32 points 10 months ago

of course the guy has the Wolfsangel in his username

[-] Redcuban1959@hexbear.net 31 points 10 months ago

the year the world descended into the next dark age

Americans are screaming as if the world is ending because their empire is getting destroyed and their own country is balkanizing. Meanwhile, the rest of the world carries on their lifes.

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[-] Kaplya@hexbear.net 29 points 10 months ago

These two accounts are spreading pro-Russian propaganda.

They’re portraying President Biden as a “weak president” when he is anything but.

Imagine getting worked up about a few Soviet-made trash rockets with zero accuracy being launched at Ukraine. lol Russia has zero chance of winning this, ok?

I am fairly certain that these people are just trolls paid by Putin and the Republican Party to divide us.

[-] Ram_The_Manparts@hexbear.net 29 points 10 months ago

Famous Hamas supporter Donald Trump

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[-] Skeleton_Erisma@hexbear.net 26 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

next dark age

Nazi bullshit

I hope someone rip a giant gale force fart into their face.

[-] Civility@hexbear.net 20 points 10 months ago
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