350
submitted 9 months ago by MicroWave@lemmy.world to c/news@lemmy.world

Former president sidestepped signing state’s loyalty oath, which opponents Nikki Haley and Chris Christie also have not signed

Joe Biden’s 2024 election campaign has lambasted former president and most likely Republican opponent Donald Trump for failing to sign a loyalty oath in the state of Illinois, in which candidates pledge against advocating an overthrow of the government.

The Biden campaign was responding to an investigation by Illinois news outlets WBEZ and the Chicago Sun-Times, which reported that Trump sidestepped signing the McCarthy era voluntary pledge that is part of the midwestern state’s package of ballot-access paperwork submitted by 2024 electoral candidates last week.

That omission came days before the third anniversary of the January 6 insurrection, for which Trump has been indicted for his alleged role in efforts to overturn Biden’s 2020 election victory. It’s a departure from 2016 and 2020, when Trump signed the voluntary oath.

all 33 comments
sorted by: hot top controversial new old
[-] girlfreddy@lemmy.ca 73 points 9 months ago

Don't sign = don't get on the ballot.

Seems simple to me.

[-] Potatos_are_not_friends@lemmy.world 32 points 9 months ago

It's the

[ ] I am not a terrorist

And these fools refuse to check the box

[-] prole@sh.itjust.works 9 points 9 months ago

Well they said it themselves at the RNC (I think. That or CPAC) when they said "We're all domestic terrorists"

[-] BeneGesseritWitch@sh.itjust.works 5 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

It was CPAC and yes, they really did this:

[-] ChonkyOwlbear@lemmy.world 30 points 9 months ago

Apparently the pledge has to be optional per a court case that ruled it is a free speech violation to make it a requirement.

[-] SheeEttin@programming.dev 33 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

You know, there's a question on security clearance paperwork that asks if you've ever done anything for violent overthrow of the government, which is definitely not an optional question. Funny that it's optional for even more important positions.

[-] prole@sh.itjust.works 18 points 9 months ago

As if that matters. Remember what happened when Jared Kushner's security clearance was denied several times? Oh that's right, nothing. Trump was able to override that. Cool.

[-] girlfreddy@lemmy.ca 8 points 9 months ago

America's justice system is a mess. :/

[-] Everythingispenguins@lemmy.world 53 points 9 months ago

So he couldn't be bothered to sign a pretend pledge to not overthrow the government? Did we finally find the thing that he wouldn't lie about?

[-] withnail@infosec.pub 9 points 9 months ago

Why should he lie about it though? His superfans actually want him to become a dictator.

[-] assassinatedbyCIA@lemmy.world 41 points 9 months ago

Doesn’t he usually love breaching contracts though.

[-] CIA_chatbot@lemmy.world 23 points 9 months ago

He does, and also, didn’t we get you already?

[-] assassinatedbyCIA@lemmy.world 19 points 9 months ago

It takes more than two bullets in the back of the head before cutting me up into little pieces and stuffing my remains into a suitcase to kill me.

[-] EmpathicVagrant@lemmy.world 7 points 9 months ago

Not sure if you’re Majin Buu or if this is a Herman Cain situation.

[-] thefartographer@lemm.ee -1 points 9 months ago

Herman Munster

[-] thefartographer@lemm.ee 6 points 9 months ago

He does and you did. I saw it and I'm gonna blow this whole thing wide open!

[-] andrewta@lemmy.world 5 points 9 months ago
[-] VikingHippie@lemmy.wtf 2 points 9 months ago

The Fartographer saves the day once again!

[-] Nougat@kbin.social 30 points 9 months ago

Very interesting how a McCarthy-era thing can suddenly become useful.

[-] cheese_greater@lemmy.world 5 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

We begin where we ended

[-] thefartographer@lemm.ee 5 points 9 months ago

I know you're being sarcastic, but I'd like to list all of the positive things to come from McCarthyism:

  • ...

Thank you for attending my TedTalk

[-] SheeEttin@programming.dev 2 points 9 months ago
  • that one bit in The Manchurian Candidate (1962) making fun of McCarthy
[-] Nougat@kbin.social 2 points 9 months ago

I wasn't being sarcastic. This "I won't try to overthrow the US government" pledge was aimed at Communists in McCarthyism, and here it tells us something important, since Trump did sign it the last two times he ran, and declined to this time.

[-] thefartographer@lemm.ee 2 points 9 months ago

Sorry, I was trying to do one of those "oh, I thought they were being serious for a second there," kind of bits and instead just made my whole gag confusing. You are absolutely right, though.

[-] theodewere@kbin.social 13 points 9 months ago

his signature is worthless in any case, and he wouldn't ever keep an oath to anyone but himself

[-] DAMunzy@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 9 months ago

One thing I can agree with him on. Stupid and useless loyalty pledge that goes further than what the headlines state.

[-] clutchmatic@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago

USA democracy is in a big doo-doo if it depends on candidates signing pledges to avoid being overthrown

this post was submitted on 08 Jan 2024
350 points (96.5% liked)

News

23287 readers
3483 users here now

Welcome to the News community!

Rules:

1. Be civil


Attack the argument, not the person. No racism/sexism/bigotry. Good faith argumentation only. This includes accusing another user of being a bot or paid actor. Trolling is uncivil and is grounds for removal and/or a community ban. Do not respond to rule-breaking content; report it and move on.


2. All posts should contain a source (url) that is as reliable and unbiased as possible and must only contain one link.


Obvious right or left wing sources will be removed at the mods discretion. We have an actively updated blocklist, which you can see here: https://lemmy.world/post/2246130 if you feel like any website is missing, contact the mods. Supporting links can be added in comments or posted seperately but not to the post body.


3. No bots, spam or self-promotion.


Only approved bots, which follow the guidelines for bots set by the instance, are allowed.


4. Post titles should be the same as the article used as source.


Posts which titles don’t match the source won’t be removed, but the autoMod will notify you, and if your title misrepresents the original article, the post will be deleted. If the site changed their headline, the bot might still contact you, just ignore it, we won’t delete your post.


5. Only recent news is allowed.


Posts must be news from the most recent 30 days.


6. All posts must be news articles.


No opinion pieces, Listicles, editorials or celebrity gossip is allowed. All posts will be judged on a case-by-case basis.


7. No duplicate posts.


If a source you used was already posted by someone else, the autoMod will leave a message. Please remove your post if the autoMod is correct. If the post that matches your post is very old, we refer you to rule 5.


8. Misinformation is prohibited.


Misinformation / propaganda is strictly prohibited. Any comment or post containing or linking to misinformation will be removed. If you feel that your post has been removed in error, credible sources must be provided.


9. No link shorteners.


The auto mod will contact you if a link shortener is detected, please delete your post if they are right.


10. Don't copy entire article in your post body


For copyright reasons, you are not allowed to copy an entire article into your post body. This is an instance wide rule, that is strictly enforced in this community.

founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS