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submitted 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) by Egon@hexbear.net to c/chapotraphouse@hexbear.net

Disclaimer: I adore my anarchist comrades and I don't write for a newspaper, I have in fact never even read one.

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[-] iridaniotter@hexbear.net 58 points 10 months ago

This an an ANARCHO-STALINIST Lemmy instance. No Trotskyists allowed! posadas not-good

[-] Egon@hexbear.net 54 points 10 months ago

ANARCHO-STALINIST

Unironically the hexbear party line lmao. Drizzle in some weird obscure third name for the nerds out there and you've got it.

[-] kristina@hexbear.net 34 points 10 months ago

Anarcho Stalinist TC69 thought

[-] Egon@hexbear.net 28 points 10 months ago
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[-] aaaaaaadjsf@hexbear.net 23 points 10 months ago

Anarcho-Stalin-Third-World-Maoism.

[-] Egon@hexbear.net 21 points 10 months ago

Nah Mao is too well-known. It's gotta be some weird french dude from the 15th century.

[-] star_wraith@hexbear.net 22 points 10 months ago

Anarcho-Stalinist-Ollmanist Thought.

[-] Egon@hexbear.net 16 points 10 months ago

Now we're cookin'

[-] aaaaaaadjsf@hexbear.net 18 points 10 months ago
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[-] PM_ME_YOUR_FOUCAULTS@hexbear.net 22 points 10 months ago
[-] Egon@hexbear.net 35 points 10 months ago

hits bong yeah dude I'm a Marxist-Leninist-bonapartist, not the napoleon one though, this is another napoleon he's from vietnam, wrote like three pamphlets about digging ditches and then burned down a local post office, which he thought harbored american GI's. He did this in the 90's, the dude was integral to leftist thought in my high school.

[-] PM_ME_YOUR_FOUCAULTS@hexbear.net 24 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Uphold Bonaparte Phủ Ngọc Tường thought

[-] Egon@hexbear.net 17 points 10 months ago
[-] PM_ME_YOUR_FOUCAULTS@hexbear.net 19 points 10 months ago

To not burn down post offices. This is the 56th kind of liberalism

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[-] Egon@hexbear.net 52 points 10 months ago

I just find it funny how the sectarianism rule isn't really a thing when it comes to trots.

[-] SteamedHamberder@hexbear.net 47 points 10 months ago

:groundskeeper-Willie: Tankies and trots are natural enemies. Like socdems and trots. Or anarchists and trots. Or MLs and trots. Or trots and other trots.

[-] Egon@hexbear.net 30 points 10 months ago

Trots sound like a contentious people

[-] KobaCumTribute@hexbear.net 37 points 10 months ago
[-] Lucien@hexbear.net 21 points 10 months ago
[-] Egon@hexbear.net 17 points 10 months ago

At this point we're past the 100's I think

[-] star_wraith@hexbear.net 31 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

You know what, I think you are right. I don’t know any Trots personally but there are plenty of them out there IRL that are cool and good (Michael Hudson and China Mieville come to mind). I’ve also read individual Trots as they often have good article and essays. They run the world’s best website, marxists.org; and IIRC they keep International Publishers going.

I feel similar about leftcoms (doubt we have any here, either). Dunk on some takes they might have, maybe allow for ACTUAL, thoughtful critique of positions, too. But no uncharitable generalizations.

I would love the rule to be that there’s no ripping on any genuine leftist movement in general, only ripping on specific takes by individuals.

[-] Egon@hexbear.net 26 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Yeah this site is kinda weird about trots. I know trots that do way more than anarchists and have better takes and vice versa. Most ML's I know are armchair socialists but that's not reason to dunk on every ML.

Some people on here think that there's some specific tendency that, if they subscribe to, will push the socialism button.

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[-] Aryuproudomenowdaddy@hexbear.net 24 points 10 months ago

I'd be surprised if there are any on Hexbear to offend tbh.

[-] Egon@hexbear.net 22 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

They're too busy writing newspapers that no one will read.
That shouldn't really be an issue though since all the ml's are busy creating new parties (some guy in the last one thinks we should implement urban farms after the revolution, but my group thinks it's important to use the implementation of urban farms as a step of taking away power from the landholding class before the inevitable revolution)
And the anarchists are of course busy... Meeting in councils talking about how they should structure a council without a vote? Building parallel power structures (smoke weed with my friends)? Playing in a kindergarten? I dunno what the leftist stereotype of anarchists are.

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[-] hotcouchguy@hexbear.net 16 points 10 months ago

Yeah but statistically there have to be a lot of us former trots around

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[-] CthulhusIntern@hexbear.net 42 points 10 months ago

BMF should be the only user allowed to do sectarianism.

[-] blobjim@hexbear.net 38 points 10 months ago

but then you'd never get to see their next idea for a username.

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[-] HumanBehaviorByBjork@hexbear.net 16 points 10 months ago

i'm fine with that

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[-] infuziSporg@hexbear.net 34 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

6 months into a new account:

"Calpurnia, the Ides of Merch have come."

"Aye, Seizer, but not gone."

[-] Egon@hexbear.net 23 points 10 months ago

Gotta love their perseverance and their ability to find new names that all, somehow, have that special bmf-factor

[-] emizeko@hexbear.net 33 points 10 months ago

aimixin on left unity:

"Left unity" is pointless. If you have a total of 5 leftists in your country, it doesn't matter if they all unify, they're still powerless. People seem to have this delusion that if only Marxists and anarchists stopped fighting, they could come together in countries like the US and take power, but in reality, this is more likely to be the result.

It's also completely backwards. No revolution has been carried out by only class conscious communists. Communists have to learn how to appeal to the masses, and the masses then have to support it. This is the problem, the highly class conscious communists will always be in small numbers, and will never have the numbers on their own, even if they all unify together.

Historically, the socialists and communists that come to power are rarely even the result of "unity", but it's always one specific section overtakes everyone else by storm. That's because some organization figures out a way to rally the masses, and once you get the masses on your side, all other organizations get in line or get destroyed.

The problem is not lack of left unity, but lack of any organizations that have figured out a way to rally the masses. Nobody has figured out how to overcome all the anti-communist brainwashing and to have a message that appeals. It's only been successful in colonized countries but not in the colonizer countries.

People who act like there's some simple solution that we're just all too stupid to see, like, "if we just all stopped fighting we'd win the revolution!" are not appreciating just how difficult the problem is. The reason communists have not succeeded in colonizer countries is not because they're all missing something "so simple", but because the problem is fucking hard, and they have a mountain to climb.

[-] keepcarrot@hexbear.net 21 points 10 months ago

Like, I kinda disagree that the only point of left unity is "if we had it, the revolution would happen". If you're setting up a kitchen for feeding homeless people on Thursday nights or something, you're not helped by burning every single bridge and are helped by having some spaces where disparate groups of 5 leftists at least talk to each other without airing their grievances about something Stalin did in 1928. This goes for setting up protests, or really any activity that involves more than 5 leftists. And within those spaces people will wander back and forth between groups on theoretical stuff and personal beefs and just time availability. Focusing on just "will this bring forth the revolution" is... idk, it probably leads to not doing very much.

(I agree with the point that left unity spaces or lack thereof is what is standing between us and "the revolution")

[-] Alaskaball@hexbear.net 22 points 10 months ago

What @emizeko@hexbear.net is talking about is ideological and organizational unity.

What you are talking about is tactical unity.

Those are two different things that at times may intersect at times, and at other times run separate from each other

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[-] oscardejarjayes@hexbear.net 33 points 10 months ago

Can't wait for the next alt

[-] Egon@hexbear.net 28 points 10 months ago

We should make a tontine or something for the next time

[-] infuziSporg@hexbear.net 35 points 10 months ago

It's the Hexbear version of the Dalai Lama.

[-] TerminalEncounter@hexbear.net 26 points 10 months ago

If you can pick out the bug burgers from these veggie burgers, you are the next BMF

[-] refolde@hexbear.net 33 points 10 months ago

I just think it's funny whenever they get banned. I also think it's funny that they always come back with a new account as if nothing happened.

[-] sharedburdens@hexbear.net 31 points 10 months ago

rip in peace stalin-smokin

[-] zed_proclaimer@hexbear.net 28 points 10 months ago
[-] Egon@hexbear.net 27 points 10 months ago

What is dead may never die

[-] Sinistar@hexbear.net 27 points 10 months ago

So uhhh I just checked the mod log and it seems like this time BMF got banned for a sus post about Harry Potter, not anti-anarchist sectarianism.

[-] Frank@hexbear.net 25 points 10 months ago

Literacy is a bourgeis plot to produce interchangeable mechanical workers therefor I am suspicious of the Trotskyists.

[-] Egon@hexbear.net 20 points 10 months ago

Pol-potist thought

[-] CliffordBigRedDog@hexbear.net 18 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

he posted about how "jewish imperialist collaborators" were behind the ukraine war

And how the "jewish religious texts justified imperialist slavery"

i mean look at this shit, if it were anyone else they would instantly be banned for this

but the mods let this guy stick around on his like 4th alt because people here find his posts funny

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[-] comrade_pibb@hexbear.net 18 points 10 months ago
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