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Poor outing for Muda in state election (www.malaymail.com)
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[-] DerpyPoint@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I can accept that MUDA performed poorly due to shit machinery and campaigning (incl addressing controversial backgrounds/actions). But what I cannot accept (and I told everyone right away when results are out for certain DUNs) is the vote splitting narrative. But of course let's make a mountain out of Sungai Kandis' loss because of MUDA even though other MUDA candidates barely made a dent to the PHBN/PN fight, and not to mention PHBN benefited from vote splitting in other crucial seats as well. You lose Sungai Kandis but couldve gained seats like Paya Jaras and Taman Medan in a straight fight.

[-] littleclover 2 points 1 year ago

It's just a denial that PN really has a foot on rural Malay voters.

[-] DerpyPoint@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Silly when PKR leaders (federal minister and Ketua AMK) in their official capacity make petty comments about Sungai Kandis while failing to address PN issues

[-] dukeGR4 2 points 1 year ago

Silly when PKR leaders (federal minister and Ketua AMK) in their official capacity

he's not making a distasteful comment like making a racist remark or anything like that either or abusing his position as minister. This is a non-issue. You can contrast this with Moo suggesting Zahid and Anwar should resign because they performed well in 3 Northern States now that's really petty.

I agree with Fahmi that MUDA is splitting votes up, from their perspective that is. You're essentially taking precious urbanites vote away them. Look this is their first election so their impact isn't too meaningful but how about the future in 4 years time when they have a solid base to stand on and compete in GE.

More power to MUDA, a strong MUDA means PH will have to take some REAL social issues seriously or they risk having their votes taken from them. I hope they don't ever do virtue signalling again tho

[-] DerpyPoint@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

So to PH urbanites vote must vote be for PH and PH only regardless of the direction PH is going. Entitled. Its not a non-issue when it makes MUDA being constantly remembered in next elections for losing Sungai Kandis. Luckily some PH supporters can understand people have the right to vote whoever they want. Would these 1k people have voted for PH instead? They could've not come out to vote or opted for PN

[-] dukeGR4 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Its not a non-issue when it makes MUDA being constantly remembered in next elections for losing Sungai Kandis.

why? just because MUDA might look back?

oh it's worse than that i can assure you - In next elections people will only ridicule a few select absolute tone deaf MUDA candidates and some of their supporters for not being able to fathom why no one else is championing their privileged cause alright.. no one's going to remember this Sungai Kandis place lol

i suppose we have very different opinion wrt what is and what isn't an issue. for me an issue looks like the government interfering in the election process such as rigging, dilute votes via gerrymandering, using their executive powers to purge political opponents, using tax payers resources to spread fake news with the effect of slandering MUDA. Up until fairly recently all of the above is still the norm in Malaysia - just showcasing you what will happen if the government truly want you gone.

Would these 1k people have voted for PH instead? They could’ve not come out to vote or opted for PN

if i had to speculate, assuming if MUDA never existed in another time line, with limited option maybe PH again.

option is always good, i wish MUDA the very best and i hope they are in it for the long run and be wise about the next election, which is the GE. A strong MUDA works in everyone's favour.

[-] DerpyPoint@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

assuming if MUDA never existed in another time line

Specific circumstances have caused this outcome in PRN 2023. What I mean is if people in this current situation had no choice for MUDA they could've not been bothered to vote for PH anyway.

[-] dukeGR4 1 points 1 year ago

Specific circumstances have caused this outcome in PRN 2023. What I mean is if people in this current situation had no choice for MUDA they could’ve not been bothered to vote for PH anyway.

if they had no choice for MUDA, the voters likely wouldn't have known that they've got a choice. even with conservative estimate, at least half would still have voted for PH because it's the next best alternative at that point in time.

also don't forget, there are a lot of young, competent and experienced candidates with bright ideas within PH that is just as passionate about issues that MUDA is passionate about. So it's not like PH could not achieve what MUDA is proposing to do.

[-] DerpyPoint@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

PH should reflect why the other half would not vote for Zawawi Mughni even if presented with no other choice. He's at least 20 years older than Afriena and had the incumbency advantage. Also re: vote rigging Zawawi alleged there were ballots missing and filed a police report, but I believe this received less attention than blaming MUDA and Afriena.

[-] dukeGR4 1 points 1 year ago

Specific circumstances have caused this outcome in PRN 2023. What I mean is if people in this current situation had no choice for MUDA they could’ve not been bothered to vote for PH anyway.

im not sure how this relates to what we're discussing.

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