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So i just bought Asus rog phone 6d and im extremely bothered by the lack of the back ,home and whatewer is the 3 one called buttons on the news androids. Is this something you all got used to with time or does this still bother you( IT really fells much less intuitive compared to the old 3 buttons ,alghtough preferably i would love to have both since the back gesture seems kinda usefull )?

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[-] Schooner@lemmy.ml 94 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I think there's a setting to bring back the buttons, if you want that.

Settings -> System -> Gestures -> System navigation

[-] Lazylazycat@lemmy.world 28 points 1 year ago

Yeah this is what I do. I tried gestures but I really prefer the buttons.

[-] doc@kbin.social 15 points 1 year ago

There's two of us! Really the minority in this thread. For me there was no guide so i was extremely confused at first. Then I found it interfered with one of my most used apps that featured similar gestures so I turned it off and never went back.

[-] Kratos@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 1 year ago

I'm still using buttons too. I never understood why people would want universal gestures for back and home while using apps that are also controlled by gestures. Just give me the dedicated buttons.

[-] JokeDeity@lemm.ee 7 points 1 year ago

My phone offers gestures but not by default and I've got zero interest. I'm really glad it's an option and I hate all the companies that think they know better than all their users and force their visions on them.

[-] Lazylazycat@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

Yeah, totally this! Also, I'm just super uncoordinated and I was constantly swiping in slightly the wrong direction so it never did what I wanted it to do. You know where you stand with a button 😆

[-] riotrick@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

Just stick with the gestures for a week or so. You'll get used to it. Wouldn't want to go back to the button row anymore.

[-] Lazylazycat@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

I've tried, it's not for me, I'm always accidentally swiping.

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[-] Infynis@midwest.social 15 points 1 year ago

Oh my God, thank you. I hate the gestures. I'm constantly going back when I'm just trying to scroll or turn pages

[-] thecam@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

Just upgraded my phone and found this setting myself. Thank god you can change it back to the 3 buttons.

[-] unknowing8343@discuss.tchncs.de 41 points 1 year ago

Definitely try gestures.

Being able to "go back" from a gentle swipe at any height is a blessing for the small hand. The rest of options are really, really intuitive.

Unless you have some mobility issues, you'll never come back after a week.

[-] Zeus@lemm.ee 13 points 1 year ago

i've no mobility issues, but i can't stand that back gesture. it interferes with the ability to open drawers; and i can't spam it quickly to get out of a "deep" page in an app

gestures do have pros (for instance, the ability to hold and scroll through recents) but the back gesture just seems straight up worse to me

[-] ChristianWS@lemmy.eco.br 9 points 1 year ago

it interferes with the ability to open drawers

It's funny, but I tried looking around the old Material Design guidelines and I haven't come across any mention of swiping to open a drawer. I know it was on Android Developers, but it appears that from the point of view of the design team, it wasn't really "officially" recommended?

Regardless, Discord, IMO, offers a better implementation for side sheets, as the metaphor isn't that you drag something from beyond the screen into view, you just drag the view itself to the side and that reveals the side sheet. And it works in the middle of the screen so it doesn't interfere with the system gestures

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[-] silent_water@hexbear.net 5 points 1 year ago

it frequently misfires when I don't want it to and fails to fire when I do. I used it for a couple of months and then went back to buttons after getting frustrated.

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[-] Gleddified@lemmy.ca 39 points 1 year ago

Pretty sure you can still enable 3 button navigation in settings. I still use it

[-] VanillaGorilla@kbin.social 31 points 1 year ago

I had that for about half an hour, but I wouldn't want to switch back. Gestures all the time

[-] mojo@lemm.ee 31 points 1 year ago

Took me awhile to get used to gesture, but can't go back now. The only thing that still bothers me is the old UX of the slide out side menus was clearly overlooked with gesture navigation and is really awkward.

[-] Polo421@lemm.ee 7 points 1 year ago

I'll never forget the day I realized my reddit app (Relay for Reddit) had a drawer that pulled out by just sliding your finger to the right from anywhere on the screen. As long as you didn't slide from the left edge, it pulled the drawer out. Why we don't make that the default is beyond me.

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[-] soullioness@lemmy.ca 29 points 1 year ago

It's possible to adjust it so you have three little buttons but you can also use gestures from those buttons. Not the sides. I used to use that setup for a long time but know I'm just using the regular gestures for now. By the way I'm on a Samsung Galaxy S20.

[-] riotrick@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

These settings are samsung specific. Samsung had optional gesture navigation before it was in android. Different gestures though (the 3 button swipe from the bottom option). So nowadays you can choose between the old style samsung gestures, the android gestures and toggle the button row on or off on samsung phones.

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[-] TonyTonyChopper@mander.xyz 25 points 1 year ago

initially I didn't like the gesture controls but they really are better than having buttons wasting space and burning in the screen

[-] RaivoKulli@sopuli.xyz 9 points 1 year ago

Can't agree. I thought they sucked. I gave it two weeks but it just felt worse to me.

[-] QuazarOmega@lemy.lol 6 points 1 year ago

Is burn-in really an issue? I've never noticed it on any of my OLED devices

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[-] IdleSheep@lemdro.id 24 points 1 year ago

I'm so used to gestures I can barely use a phone with button navigation. When I have to help my parents/grandparents with their smartphones I take longer just because they use buttons lol.

Also the 3 button navigation is not gone afaik. All OEMs I've used have it buried in the settings somewhere.

[-] tjhart85@kbin.social 24 points 1 year ago

I used a phone without gestures the other day and had such a hard time with it, it was crazy how unintuitive the buttons felt in comparison to the gestures!

The simple fact is, neither is actually all that intuitive, they're learned, but gestures definitely get to be very convenient and a much quicker form of navigation.

I would definitely not want to go back.

[-] Vlhacs@reddthat.com 21 points 1 year ago

It's funny, if you swap gestures with buttons in your post, I'd agree 100% lol

[-] tjhart85@kbin.social 4 points 1 year ago

@Vlhacs Yeah, like I said, we call things intuitive without realizing that nothing in this is intuitive at all, it's all learned behavior.

For me now, swiping at the edges of the screen makes complete sense and needing to go to a certain place at the bottom of the phone to go back was weird because "why would I go to the bottom of the screen to go backwards, that doesn't make sense", but it was definitely a learning curve to get to this point!

With all that said, hell, there are still times I really miss the old trackball and full keyboard from the OG G1 (the dedicated hardware button for the camera was nice too, but double tap power isn't terrible). I wouldn't want to give up screen space for the trackball, but damn if it didn't really help with fine navigation and using the phone in the cold!

Different strokes for different folks, I'm just glad we've got options so we can all be (mostly) happy with how things work!

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[-] Steve@communick.news 23 points 1 year ago

I really wanted to like gestures. I used them for over a year.
Even after all that, switching back bottom navigation immediately felt right.

[-] Axion@lemmy.world 17 points 1 year ago

I loved Android's 3 button nav for years but after like a week of using gestures I couldn't go back. Once I got the hang of it, it was way more fluid feeling to use.

[-] lud@lemm.ee 16 points 1 year ago

Nah, I love gestures. It's so quick to go back just by swiping left or right.

[-] danielfgom@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago

I like both but use gestures because I don't want to lose screen space on the bottom. I like full screen apps

[-] MakeItCount@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago

Haven't used the 3 buttons navigation since 2016 or 2017

[-] ebd6a8c9051028dc1607@lemmy.ml 11 points 1 year ago

gesture navigation is fine for me. but i more want stacking recent tasks back

[-] andthenthreemore@startrek.website 10 points 1 year ago

I prefer gestures. But if you like buttons just go to settings and turn them on.

[-] shashi154263@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I don't know about your phone, but there is probably a setting to enable button navigation.

However, I was in similar situation when I bought my phone, I even enabled the buttons at first. Then I thought to try gesture navigation for sometime, and now I love it. It's much easier and faster in most cases.

[-] shortwavesurfer@monero.town 9 points 1 year ago

Try gestures. They get easy after a time. Pro tip: to open hamburger menus tap and hold left edge of screen for 0.5s and pull it out to the right. Works every time and no accidental back swipes.

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[-] limerod@reddthat.com 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Nah, I jumped to gestures the first chance I did. 3 button navigation is old school, and on large screen devices, it's not good. Gestures have a larger surface area for activation and require less precise input to active. I also use one-handed mode+ of samsung, so I have the entire 3 sides of the screen to activate as desired. They are just that much intuitive and convenient for me.

[-] ljdawson@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago

Gesture all the way

[-] bellossom@midwest.social 8 points 1 year ago

I really miss the 2 button navigation bar. using the pill to switch between apps felt intuitive. however I don't think I could go back after using gestures.

[-] Cloudygrey@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

Had the same initial reaction to Pixel. But its really grown on me. The swipe to go back is awesome. Having said that, there is a setting to get the buttons back, in case this doesn't grow on you

[-] NukaRaider20@lemm.ee 8 points 1 year ago

For me it's the opposite now. My boyfriend still uses the 3 bottom buttons and I am so used to gestures by now that whenever I use his phone I am always a little thrown off. To me it just feels more intuitive to swipe rather than to go to the bottom of the screen to tap a button.

[-] mannycalavera@feddit.uk 7 points 1 year ago

It's just too easy to accidentally swipe back. A massive massive flaw in my opinion. The amount of times I catch my self entering a screen scrolling vertically and then accidentally exiting only to lose my place when I return.

Having said that the speed of doing actions has increased for me. It's just the accuracy has decreased at the same time.

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[-] clmbmb@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 1 year ago

Fuck gestures! And people, can't you understand other people like buttons instead of gestures? If you don't have an answer to what OP asked, why bother to "give advice"?

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[-] Infynis@midwest.social 6 points 1 year ago

Just changed back to buttons thanks to a comment on this post. I had been using gestures since I got my new Pixel mid-July (since my carrier stopped supporting the 3a and gave me a 6a for $50). Never got used to it, constantly kept accidentally swiping to go back while doing other things.

This isn't quite as good as the 3a, which had buttons for back and home, but swipe up for the app switcher, but it's definitely better than 100% gestures

[-] Chozo@kbin.social 6 points 1 year ago

I very quickly got used to the gesture controls, and now appreciate the extra screen space.

[-] simple@lemm.ee 6 points 1 year ago

You're looking for settings --> navigation bar

[-] Anti_Weeb_Penguin@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

Just use the standard navigation bar

[-] haych@lemmy.one 5 points 1 year ago

Past two phones I've had (Galaxy Z fold 3 and OnePlus 7 Pro) I've had the option for gestures or buttons.

I always pick gestures, I get more screen real estate and the gestures feel good and intuitive.

If you don't like them, change it, that's the benefit of Android, you can do what you want.

[-] Stovetop@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

Not to mention how often the on screen navigation buttons would just burn in. There'd be a permanent outline where they normally are if you were to view any full screen media.

Definitely made sure to enable gesture navigation on my current phone and that hasn't been a problem.

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[-] 0_o@lemm.ee 5 points 1 year ago

I switched to "drag up" nav bar as soon as OLED and burn-in became a thing. So technically I was already "gesturing" before gestures were integrated :3

Once proper gestures came in, after the initial learning period, I never looked back!

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