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Looks like a weird Pokémon knockoff game. I don't get the hype.

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[-] CriticalOtaku@hexbear.net 46 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Latest indie darling blow up videogame fad that you'll hear less of in a month or so. I say that somewhat derisively but I think it's pretty normal, Lethal Company was the last one and that was a neat little horror co-op game imo.

I think the reason word of mouth is spreading so much can be attributed to two things:

  1. It's somewhat edgy, misanthropic and subversive take on Pokemon/Nintendo's family friendly aesthetics. I can't say much about this as I haven't played the game myself to judge just exactly how much is being played straight and how much is satire (and I don't plan to), but I'd guess people who grew up with Pokemon as a franchise have been looking for that edgy take and are reacting to that, and the resulting controversy is driving the engagement algorithms (I mean just look at hexbear lmao), and

  2. it's fulfilling a niche that Nintendo hasn't by being an online multiplayer Pokemon-esque game that's not turn-based; just judging based on some of the clips I've seen but working together with your friends to catch a high level Pokemon-alike actually does look kinda fun. This one's really on Game Freak for allowing Pokemon to go stale by playing it safe and not innovating the game design at all, so Palworld coming in to steal Nintendo's lunch money here's pretty deserved, I think. (Although yeah, I guess Ark did it first but the cartoony character designs are doing a lot of heavy lifting in making the on-screen action legible).

[-] invo_rt@hexbear.net 29 points 9 months ago

I wanted Pokemon with guns. What I got was yet another unfinished "survival" game with a legally distinct coat of paint.

[-] envis10n@hexbear.net 28 points 9 months ago

Honestly, it's very early. It's one of the most feature complete early access games I have played in a long time.

It has similar survival aspects compared to Ark, valheim, and Conan. Building is not punishing with reasonable material requirements. You assign pals to your base, and they perform actions based on their available skills (mining, logging, handiwork, planting, watering, etc) and their passive traits (randomly assigned modifiers). You can keep a party of 6 with you, including one that can be out walking along as a companion. Some can be mounted, some can be used for extra oomf in combat, some will guide you to resources.

There are dungeons around the map that have bosses and loot, as well as some more elusive pals.

It's a bit like Satisfactory in that you setup resource nodes and your outpost will generate those and allow you create things from it. There are a lot of pals to find apparently, as I continue to find new ones while exploring. There are boss battles, sometimes you'll find a camp of syndicate guys (poachers) and free their captive pal from a cage to obtain it.

Idk man, I'm having a blast playing it. It's very forgiving for a survival game, and reasonably easy to manage your base. Resources are plentiful, gameplay loop is pretty solid, and exploration is fun.

Where it will go from here, considering this is the first public build of an early access title, idk. But it has a really good foundation.

[-] ProfessorOwl_PhD@hexbear.net 25 points 9 months ago

It's less edgy pokemon and more just open world pokemon. The vast majority of the edgy stuff are just things that appeared in the pokemon games but you weren't allowed to do yourself.

[-] Barabas@hexbear.net 23 points 9 months ago

We had Pokémon that had fought in wars and a genetically altered Pokémon that killed the scientists trying to control it the very first game.

[-] farting_weedman@hexbear.net 25 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

It’s what gamefreak have refused to do and it’s good.

E: oh yeah, there’s a bunch of absolute freaks going nuts on twitter trying to prove that the developer used ai to make assets from nintendos ip. If you’ve got any experience with 3d modeling or llm/gpt it’s very funny to scroll through. Primo “fifth grader lawyer” time.

[-] DamarcusArt@lemmygrad.ml 10 points 9 months ago

Yeah, looking at these designs, yeah, they're fake pokemon, but clearly designed by a person. Weird how people seem to think artists have vanished since AI popped into existence, and that lazy or derivative art has ceased to exist. (Not that I think the art is lazy, the designs are very cute, and if they were trying to avoid making their creatures look like pokemon, they would basically have to throw out 90% of appealing art design in the process. I don't blame them for leaning in on the "discount pokemon" angle at all.)

[-] farting_weedman@hexbear.net 2 points 9 months ago

There’s a very funny interview translation going around where the lead dev or whatever is asked “what is your creative vision” and replies “I don’t have a creative vision, I just want to make fun games”

It’s gonna take some serious icj convincting the idf of genocide level proof to not just see the dev and games success as our last gasp of wholesome %100.

[-] Dirt_Owl@hexbear.net 22 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Because Hexbear has the weirdest struggle sessions sometimes.

(It's a new monster-catching game that took a animal expolitation spin on Pokemon, and now everyones debating if Pokemon is unethical or not)

[-] JohnBrownNote@hexbear.net 14 points 9 months ago

uhh it's outside of hexbear too.

unlike cats, which should not be outside.

[-] Dirt_Owl@hexbear.net 11 points 9 months ago

The internet argues about the stupidest things internet-delenda-est

[-] wopazoo@hexbear.net 6 points 9 months ago

unlike cats, which should not be outside.

if the people whinging about how wind turbines kill birds really cared about birds, they would advocate to ban all cats, which kill way more birds than wind turbines ever will

[-] JohnBrownNote@hexbear.net 2 points 9 months ago

also buildings over (i forget) high

[-] Yurt_Owl@hexbear.net 20 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Ark survival evolved and factorio but its pokemon crafting survival game but a very rough unreal engine game that looks like an nft game.

I tried it on gamepass, its definitely a video game. No idea why its talked about so much.

[-] Comp4@hexbear.net 15 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

It gets compared with Pokemon a lot but honestly the gameplay (to my knowledge) isnt really thaaat much like Pokemon. Its Pokemon + guns + Valheim + Ark Survival.

Its on PC and Xbox. You can play it solo or in groups of 4 or on servers with up to 32 people (I think)

[-] Maaj@hexbear.net 3 points 9 months ago

32 people on steam, 4-player co-op on xbox

[-] DamarcusArt@lemmygrad.ml 11 points 9 months ago

It's pretty fun, if you almost liked Ark survival evolved and like pokemon you'd probably enjoy it.

[-] DengistDonnieDarko@hexbear.net 10 points 9 months ago

It's fun :)

[-] GinAndJuche@hexbear.net 10 points 9 months ago

Is it wrong to automate my rock stacking if I use water type ~~Pokémon~~ pals?

[-] StalinistApologist@hexbear.net 9 points 9 months ago

I'm just happy it's not related to frenworld

[-] HumanBehaviorByBjork@hexbear.net 8 points 9 months ago

it's a joke that got taken too far. it's the free market functioning as it should. it's Pokemon With Guns. it's probably not actually a video game. buy it today!

[-] StellarTabi@hexbear.net 8 points 9 months ago

IDK why we even need a pokemon clone, as there are already 100s of pokemon games and they're all literally the same.

[-] CliffordBigRedDog@hexbear.net 8 points 9 months ago

Kinda mid but theres potential there i guess

[-] SpiderFarmer@hexbear.net 7 points 9 months ago

I like the look of it, but I won't judge as someone who got sick of seeing BG3 everywhere for months. I like D&D enough that I've played some AD&D, but it's possible to have too much of a good thing for sure.

[-] TheDialectic@hexbear.net 7 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Pokemon is factually one of the largest franchises on earth.

Palworld is possibly a loving parody that addresses at least in part every criticism people have ever had about pokemon so it is fascinating to see it in the wild.

[-] Elon_Musk@hexbear.net 7 points 9 months ago

We must protect the copyright holders! How dare they use generative AI to make new pokemon!

[-] viva_la_juche@hexbear.net 17 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Defending against generative ai is less about copyright holders and more about advocating for and protecting fellow workers in creative industries from being dropped for that lazy shit. The corporations are fine either way, as always it’s the workers who are left holding the bag

[-] Great_Leader_Is_Dead@hexbear.net 8 points 9 months ago

Did they use AI to make the game? The art looks lazy but not like AI.

[-] envis10n@hexbear.net 15 points 9 months ago

The issue is their CEO previously posted about how AI could be used to skirt copyright, and that he couldn't tell which were legit pokemon or AI generated ones anymore due to how far the technology has come.

They hired a concept designer for their monsters, though it's not clear if the designer used AI to generate concept art to then redraw. At the moment it's all speculation with no hard evidence of wrongdoing.

Outside of the CEO saying these things publicly, and the company's previous title that was based on AI image generation, there is nothing to say that these monsters were designed with AI.

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