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[-] FenrirIII@lemmy.world 69 points 10 months ago

He's the Anti-Christ in like every way. But he's white, so it's all good.

[-] SinningStromgald@lemmy.world 20 points 10 months ago

Yuck! At least Nicolae Carpathia from Left Behind was good looking and not an orange turd.

[-] ilinamorato@lemmy.world 15 points 10 months ago

The three of us on Lemmy that get that joke are all ROLLING.

[-] agent_flounder@lemmy.world 9 points 10 months ago

Confirmed.

I wished I didn't get it. But all that rot is behind me now.

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago

I got the joke and I've never read a Left Behind book, but I have read much, but not all of-

https://www.patheos.com/blogs/slacktivist/2015/11/05/left-behind-index-the-whole-thing/

And if you have read the books, you'd probably appreciate it more than I do, but it's the most in-depth takedown of a book, let alone a series of books, that I have ever read. Like paragraph by paragraph sometimes.

[-] ilinamorato@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago

Oh geez I've been wondering about this for twenty years! I caught the first post or two as they came out, right as I was still in the thick of cultural Christianity but not really serious about it—later, as I began shuddering at what I had been, I idly wondered to myself about this series and whether it had continued, but never enough to actually go looking for it. Thank you for bringing it back to my attention!

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago

No problem. I'm really tempted to start over again from the beginning, but it's such an epic website to go through.

[-] stown@sedd.it 3 points 10 months ago

I'm not religious anymore but I still think that was a really cool science fiction series.

[-] SinningStromgald@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago

I never was very religious before being an atheist but the books were entertaining popcorn between Sword of Truth and Wheel of Time releases. It also helped my mom was reading them so I didn't have to spend my money on the books. A lot of what I read at the time was because my mom read it.

[-] Varyk@sh.itjust.works 53 points 10 months ago

He really does check all the boxes.

Deception - committing direct electoral fraud, defamation, his nicknames, really everything he says is deceptive in some form to some degree

Promoting evil deeds - inciting violence, racism, normalizing rape

Idolatry - trump has christians idolizing him and praying to him directly

Persecution of believers - he's telling christians he's tricked into following him that real medicine is bad and taking medication that gives them heart attacks and injecting bleach will save them

I'm not Christian beeteedubs, just a fan of irony

[-] Boddhisatva@lemmy.world 7 points 10 months ago

He really does check all the boxes.

Pride, greed, wrath, envy, lust, gluttony and sloth... yep, every one.

[-] Varyk@sh.itjust.works 4 points 10 months ago

Pride - the Trump towers, how he talks about himself

Greed - he won't pay the contractors who did work for him just to save a couple dollars

Wrath - inciting violence, full page advertisements advocating the death penalty, says he loved to fight, any kind of fight, including physical.

Envy - obsessed with Hillary Clinton winning the popular vote , wants to be a dictator like the leaders of China and North Korea,

Lust - Trump is a rapist, and committed constant sexual harassment in the White House often.

Gluttony - obviously eats too much McDonald's and drinks too much soda, bottomless appetite

Sloth - avoided presidential duties to watch TV for hours, live tweets the TV he's watching for hours, is never prepared for meetings, delegates work and then takes credit for it.

[-] Boddhisatva@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago

Sloth - avoided presidential duties to watch TV for hours, live tweets the TV he’s watching for hours, is never prepared for meetings, delegates work and then takes credit for it.

Thanks for adding some detail to support my post. I thought about doing it but felt it might become overwhelming. Since you've done so already, I will add one more thing for Sloth. It's a weird one too. Trump believes that we are born with only so much energy and if you exercise you use it up and will die quicker.

After college, after Trump mostly gave up his personal athletic interests, he came to view time spent playing sports as time wasted. Trump believed the human body was like a battery, with a finite amount of energy, which exercise only depleted. So he didn’t work out. When he learned that John O’Donnell, one of his top casino executives, was training for an Ironman triathlon, he admonished him, “You are going to die young because of this.”

[-] nullPointer@programming.dev 4 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

not prosecuting and jailing for rape is what normalizes rape.

/hair split

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[-] athos77@kbin.social 4 points 10 months ago

Persecution of believers

What's the passage on that one? Could it mean trumpWorshippers persecuting people who actually believe in the kindness and support tenets of Christianity but who aren't [MAGAts || Christians]?

[-] Varyk@sh.itjust.works 4 points 10 months ago

2 Timothy 3:12, taking about the end times, and it certainly could be interpreted that way:

"Yea, and all that will live godly in Christ Jesus shall suffer persecution."

[-] kmartburrito@lemmy.world 37 points 10 months ago

No shit. Anyone not drunk on the Kool aid can easily see this, the dude is the devil incarnate, and an absolute moron.

[-] DoucheBagMcSwag@lemmy.dbzer0.com 36 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

points to Revelation to where the false prophet rises to unlimited power

Fuck.

[-] BillDaCatt@kbin.social 15 points 10 months ago

Those red hats do seem to have a "mark of the beast" flair to them. They aren't the permanent mark indicated in Revelation 13:16, but I think if you wear it every day it may as well be.

I'm not a Christian, but his followers certainly are. I wonder how they don't see it?

[-] Telorand@reddthat.com 6 points 10 months ago

The Bible also says the mark is required to do business, like buying food at the store. The similarities are interesting, but it's not like you can't apply many of them to other terrible leaders throughout history. And since Revelation is actually referring to Rome and Nero, it makes sense why the author is able to encapsulate the concept of "terrifying leader" so well.

But to your point, they don't see it, because like everything in religion, you can pick and choose what you like. That's why there's so many sects of Christianity, and why at least one scholar calls Trump's version "American Fundamentalism." Trump is the messiah they've been waiting for.

They don't see it, because they don't want to.

[-] Bipta@kbin.social 3 points 10 months ago

It's permanent in the sense that once someone sees you in it they'll never look at you the same.

[-] blazeknave@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago

Omg totally. It's like a brand. But not that kind, that it also is. Oh, snap. That's the etymology of the modern use of the word... Huh.. TIL as I type this....

But yeah, that describes how I viscerally respond to seeing it. They needn't have the rest of their face if it were a 666 on the forehead, it'd be all you see. Same w the hats now. Face is irrelevant. Hat says enough.

[-] DeepFriedDresden@kbin.social 2 points 10 months ago

I think they don't see it because the people who support Trump and see him as a harbinger of prosperity are the same people who take the Bible at face value and are already of the belief that should the Rapture come tomorrow, they certainly won't be left below.

They believe in the wrathful God of the Old Testament, they are fundamentalists and they are a far cry from what good Christians can be. Should Jesus come tomorrow, these people would have him lynched as a pinko liberal, labeling him the antichrist.

They're not Christian because they have read the Bible and learned to love thy neighbor and become a righteous person, they are Christian because they have been told a lake of hellfire awaits those who don't accept Jesus and they were indoctrinated into the religion of Revelations. They've been fed the cherry-picked apples of knowledge by pastors with agendas and never challenged the version of God they were given.

Trumps persecution by the state and mainstream politics fuels this fire. Surely if he were the antichrist he would not have been challenged by the DOJ and "anti-christian" liberals. In their minds, his path to the white house, as a leader of men, parallels Jesus.

[-] june@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago

My mother calls him ‘a man for such a time as this’. She references god using a donkey to minister to Paul and says ‘god can use anyone’. She acknowledges he’s not a Christian but still believes he’s the anointed one to lead the country and has prophecies about him, including one about him being assassinated IIRC.

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[-] Haus@kbin.social 7 points 10 months ago

Er, howabout nothing supernatural, just a dying narcissist?

[-] tygerprints@kbin.social 7 points 10 months ago

False prophet? He seems more like the epitome of Satan. Except without the intelligence or logic.

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[-] june@lemmy.world 4 points 10 months ago

Been saying that for 8 years.

[-] macrocephalic@lemmy.world 4 points 10 months ago

The main flaw in this article is that they're comparing Trump's book to God's book, and both were ghostwritten.

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