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[-] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 29 points 2 years ago

Just be aware, hydrogen in almost all its presented formats is basically natural gas. 96% of hydrogen is sourced from fossil fuels.

So whenever you see shit promoting hydrogen, read it as something promoting natural gas/ fossil fuels.

[-] Cethin@lemmy.zip 2 points 2 years ago

The bonus of hydrogen power is it can eventually be used for energy storage when the grid is fully renewable. This is useful for transportation of energy to other parts of the world by shipping hydrogen, but also locally to offset dips in production or peaks in demand. However, currently it is absolutely greenwashing.

[-] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

The biggest point of me making a deal of this is that Hypx goes around propagandizing this shit, and if you arent paying attention, you might actually believe that hydrogen represent actually renewable tech. He spams this shit constantly and hasn't been banned on his lemmy home instance.

He's a completely bad faith actor.

[-] 9488fcea02a9@sh.itjust.works 25 points 2 years ago

I mean... Technically fossil fuels are renewable.... They're just renewing at a VERY slow pace

[-] duplexsystem@lemmy.blahaj.zone 14 points 2 years ago

I learned recently coal is not renewable at all. We will never get more coal. Coal exists from a period of time when trees had cellulose but bacteria had no means of breaking down cellulose.

[-] AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago

So we need to stick entire forests into a microwave, and then ship the sterile wood to mars, and bury it for a few billion years?

[-] jol@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 2 years ago

Wouldn't work. You wouldn't be able to so. Pletely sterilise the wood. There will always be bacteria on it and even inside it.

[-] davel@lemmy.ml 16 points 2 years ago

This scam is already 20 years old, starting with George W. Bush’s 2000 election campaign platform of a “hydrogen economy.”

CleanTechnica: The Hydrogen Fuel Cell Scam — From George W. Bush & “The Big 3” To Toyota, Honda, & Japan

[-] CowsLookLikeMaps@sh.itjust.works 5 points 2 years ago

He also popularized the phrasing "climate change" in his speeches which was an idea from republican political strategist Frank Luntz.

[-] Apollonius_Cone@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago

Propane is profane.

[-] Edgarallenpwn@midwest.social 7 points 2 years ago

Hank Hill in shambles

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