Russian bombers intercepted heading to NATO airspace : worldnews

[-] Hyperreality@kbin.social 42 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Not really newsworthy.

They do this regularly. It's normal.

It's used to test reaction time. They fly towards the border, then see how fast the jets scramble.

Eg.

https://edition.cnn.com/2014/04/23/world/europe/russian-bombers-intercepted/index.html

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/aug/03/military-aircraft-interventions-have-surged-top-gun-but-for-real

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/feb/17/raf-fighters-intercept-two-russian-bombers-uk-airspace

https://edition.cnn.com/2017/04/18/politics/russian-bombers-f-22-intercept-alaska/index.html

https://edition.cnn.com/2018/05/11/politics/us-stealth-fighters-intercept-russian-bombers/index.html

https://edition.cnn.com/2019/08/08/politics/us-aircraft-intercept-russian-bombers/index.html

https://edition.cnn.com/2020/08/31/politics/russian-jet-nato-b-52/index.html

https://www.reuters.com/world/russian-planes-over-north-sea-intercepted-by-belgian-f-16s-dutch-defence-2021-11-12/

https://edition.cnn.com/2021/03/30/politics/nato-russia-jets/index.html

Here's a few where the Russian scrambled jets when the US flew to near Russia:

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2023/3/21/russia-says-warplane-scrambled-a-us-bombers-flew-over-baltic-sea

https://www.the-sun.com/news/3736802/russia-warplanes-intercept-us-b-52-nuclear/

https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/russia-scrambles-two-fighter-jets-escort-us-strategic-bombers-over-black-sea-ria-2021-10-20/

Caveat: the Russians try to portray any flight even slightly near the Russian border as very agressive and obviously use any and all incidents to play a round of whataboutism. They've also got this whole narrative going about NATO being about to invade Russia. Meanwhile western media will portray these intercepts as very agressive and unprofessional, something the Russians will deny, but given what happened with that drone a while back that's likely true.

Occasionally someone will violate someone else's airspace, especially if countries degree where it starts/ends. Also not uncommon.

Same thing with China.

Not really a big deal, except that time Turkey shut down a Russian jet, or occasional spy ballon/drone shootdowns. Certainly unlikely to start a war.

[-] PersnickityPenguin@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

Yeah, they also buzz Alaska and Seattle on a regular basis as well.

[+] ghosts@hexbear.net 17 points 1 year ago

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[-] MoreAmphibians@hexbear.net 3 points 1 year ago

Compare it to the weepy and self-justified prose that is used when American bombers and spy planes are intercepted.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/us-navy-aircraft-intercepted-china-jets-pentagon/

"All operations are conducted in accordance with international law and demonstrate that the United States will fly, sail and operate wherever international law allows," Ross said. Last week, U.S. defense officials said two Chinese SU-30 jets conducted an unprofessional intercept of an American radiation-sniffing surveillance plane in the East China Sea. Pacific Air Forces spokeswoman Lt. Col. Lori Hodge said at the time that the Chinese aircraft approached a WC-135 Constant Phoenix aircraft - a modified Boeing C-135 - conducting a routine mission in international airspace in accordance with international law. The WC-135 crew characterized the intercept as unprofessional "due to the maneuvers by the Chinese pilot, as well as the speeds and proximity of both aircraft," Hodge said.

American spy plane crew is too cowardly to handle a Chinese jet flying too close to them.

[-] BaroqueInMind@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Ok, then let's see your fat morbidly obese tankie-ass pilot a multi-ton & multi-million dollar aircraft at 800 miles per hour at ten thousand feet expertly.

[-] Madison_rogue@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago

South China Seas, where China illegally has made claim to the territory in spite of international maritime law. Of course the U.S. will react this way when confronted by a threat in what's considered international waters by everyone except China.

[-] nonsense_boyo@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 1 year ago

I think you're just proving their point..

[-] awwwyissss@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago

Go back to your own fork, Hexbear propagandist.

[-] Zoboomafoo@yiffit.net 2 points 1 year ago

American spy plane crew is too cowardly to handle a Chinese jet flying too close to them.

Uh yeah, pilots are famously shy and generally don't like it when other planes fly near them without asking

[-] coco@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

That a yuge Bomber !!!!

[-] TimeNaan@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Tu-95 Bear

[-] Brkdncr@artemis.camp -1 points 1 year ago

What’s to prevent them from allowing the planes into airspace, warning them, then forcing them to land if they don’t GTFO after the 1st warning?

[-] BaroqueInMind@kbin.social 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Because, unlike the safe fragile bubble society has built around you, military forces only respond to agression and violence. Kind words and warnings belong to the politicians, self defense is non-negotiable; rules of engagement are mandated by politics.

[-] PersnickityPenguin@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago

There's this thing called a missile. 50 kg of high explosive at the front end of the missile will blow the other aircraft out of the sky.

That's what keeps these planes from nuking your cities.

[+] johannes@lemmy.jhjacobs.nl -18 points 1 year ago

I still think this is how WW3 will start. Russia is provoking to the point that someone will take the bait.

[-] NOT_RICK@lemmy.world 18 points 1 year ago

Russia probes NATO air defense all the time. They even had a jet shot down by Turkey in 2015 and nothing of consequence happened

[-] SheeEttin@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago

And we probe their defense too. This is standard behavior. Reporting is as if it's unusual is just stirring up anti-russian sentiment.

[-] NOT_RICK@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago

This could be a matter of there being a language barrier, but I haven’t seen stories of Russia complaining about probes from NATO.

[-] Madison_rogue@kbin.social 4 points 1 year ago

Google search of Russia complaints of NATO actions near border.

I'm not going to link them individually. There are instances of Russia complaining about NATO action near its border.

[-] NOT_RICK@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

I meant with aircraft. Not exactly the same thing comparing a ground action inside a state’s territory with a jet that can travel faster than the speed of sound, imo. I might add that Russian probing often leads to them entering into NATO airspace in a way that NATO drills have not, to my knowledge.

[-] DarkThoughts@kbin.social 4 points 1 year ago

and nothing of consequence happened

I think Russia stopped probing Turkey, no?

[-] atlasraven31@lemm.ee 14 points 1 year ago

Turkey did. There was no retaliation.

[-] Unaware7013@kbin.social 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Nah, this is a non-story and happens all the time. It's just here to rile people up who don't pay close attention to these sorts of articles.

[-] PersnickityPenguin@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago

Don't forget they flew those armed helicopters over Polish villages recently.

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