I wonder if the libs will ever come around on this one. maybe 10 years from now.
I gotta wonder if discourse was as full of brainworms like this during the early days of past wars, like iraq, vietnam or korea
Vietnam War was incredibly popular until the release of the Pentagon papers
Like, that whole idea that there was a large anti-war movement from the beginning of it is just cope for everyone being rah-rah for almost a decade
This isn't correct. The Pentagon Papers came out in '71; there were tons of significant protests before then. Draft card burning dated back to '64, all sorts of SDS activity picked up in '65, Muhammad Ali dropped his "no Viet Cong ever called me n-----" line in '66, anti-war activism was a huge aspect of the '68 election (especially the Democratic National Convention), etc. This wasn't just a youth movement, either: half of Americans viewed the war as a mistake by July '67.
The causation probably ran the other way -- opposition to the war was so widespread by '71 that it reached people in positions high enough to leak meaningful documents.
I wonder if the libs will ever come around on this one. maybe 10 years from now.
I honestly doubt it. I believe that everyone involved in backing Ukraine against Russia is going to be doing some variation of the "stabbed in the back" narrative. Western governments, Ukrainian civilian leaders, Ukrainian military leaders, Ukrainian soldiers, Ukrainian citizens, absolutely everyone is going to be pointing fingers and trying to deflect blame.
Of course we all know the real reason Ukraine will lose the war is because Russia's military was just plain better. Superior numbers, doctrine, logistics. This war was Russia's to lose, and so far they haven't.
(No idea how links are showing up now)
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