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[-] GenBlob@lemm.ee 45 points 1 year ago

Gamers Nexus and Hardware Unboxed are the only channels I would watch for new PC part reviews. They don't hide or glance over any details for the sake of entertainment and your attention. If I'm spending $700+ on a product I want to know exactly what I'm getting, Not a quick rundown that skips over details that could be potential deal breakers. Glad to see them get the attention they deserve after all this controversy.

[-] rDrDr@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago

You gotta check out Digital Foundry for GPUs and Hardware Canucks for cases/accessories.

[-] Dass93@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

I watch Jayztwocents because the channel is not a specific this is good and bad.

[-] ruk_n_rul 38 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

After the sewer explosion at LMG today I truly felt Gamer Jesus is really coming forth as a messiah.

[-] Crunchypotat77@lemm.ee 34 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

That whole video, and the follow-up, were incredible. I used to trust LTT quite a bit, but after the video, I've just chunks of respect for LTT. Dunno if i can ever trust them.

Edit:

I work in the tech industry. I work for an A tier company that makes servers, storage and more. I cannot imagine fucking up a benchmark/performance characterisation chart THIS badly even for an internal presentation.

I have spent hours double checking and re-running tests to ensure I'm getting the right numbers.

And to see a channel as big as LTT goofing up numbers so badly, which have the potential to affect thousands of purchasing decisions, i can't even.

We also work with vendors, who sometimes send hardware prototypes. And we can never be THIS unprofessional to them.

[-] jeebus@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago

Seems Linus is in love with money now.

[-] appel@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago

Same. Has LTT responded yet?

[-] 10EXP@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Linus made a post on LTTForums, but LMG/LTT, as a company, has yet to respond.

Update: Video up on LTT channel.

[-] thesprongler@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

LTT is like Fox News - it may come off as statistical analysis of technology but it's really just there for entertainment purposes. They may call themselves fair and balanced but they offer favorable reviews to sponsors.

[-] pubtup@kbin.social 0 points 1 year ago

What video? I'm out of the loop

[-] MrFunnyMoustache@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X3byz3txpso

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[-] ThePac@lemmy.ml 25 points 1 year ago

Tech Jesus for data. LTT for infotainment.

[-] gdelopata@lemmy.ml 17 points 1 year ago

Too large, corporate burdens. Ltt needs to slow down. Quantity over quality not cool.

[-] Comment105@lemm.ee 9 points 1 year ago

"We may be pumping out trash, but at least the trash pumps are running strong with huge throughput. We're ℙℝ𝕆𝔻𝕌ℂ𝕋𝕀𝕍𝔼!

[-] socsa@lemmy.ml 16 points 1 year ago

I honestly never got his channel. Does Linus actually have a tech/engineering background which makes him an authority on this stuff? Watching his videos leads me to believe that he doesn't. He gets basic shit wrong way too often.

[-] OsrsNeedsF2P@lemmy.ml 21 points 1 year ago

Linus is both knowledgable and a good entertainer. The problem is he's grown from a casual reviewer to running a 100+ employee business, pumping out multiple videos a week with his face on it - He simply cannot possibly know anything about the product besides what's on the script.

When he is interested in something, it really shows. The way he talks about the LTT Screwdriver or the Framework laptop for example almost never even has a correction, let alone errors. Linus just has no ability to upscale that quality.

[-] Cethin@lemmy.zip 4 points 1 year ago

Yeah, the channel was great many years ago. Basically the same time they moved to the warehouse building is when it went downhill, and fast. They started pumping out more lower quality videos, and it was nearly all covered in click bait. They also created the side channel where they tried to make funny content. That's when I unsubscribed. I don't know if that's all still the same, but they clearly got caught up in trying to expand and following youtube trends that they forgot what they were good at.

[-] FaeDrifter@midwest.social 11 points 1 year ago

He's does not have a technical background and he's said as much, gaming and computers are just a passion for him.

He's an entertainer, not an authority. But he speaks so passionately it's easy for a non-technical person to believe he's an authority.

[-] Crunchypotat77@lemm.ee 10 points 1 year ago

He doesn't. He's just being a computer technician for as long as he has worked.

[-] s_s@lemm.ee 6 points 1 year ago

It used to be an unboxing channel.

[-] cyberpunk007@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 year ago

And before that, he was the NCIX guy that did all the videos for their site.

[-] rab@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 year ago

LTT is just an infomercial

[-] astral_avocado@programming.dev 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Watching his videos leads me to believe that he doesn’t.

Watching his videos leads me to believe that he does, the random knowledge drops he has about hardware and the deeper levels of the software stack convince me of that.

Even if he is parroting knowledge he's getting from his engineers, and I don't think he is, he still sounds very knowledgable. I think everyone's simply jumping on a hate bandwagon for the fun of it.

[-] altima_neo@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 year ago

No he was basically a marketing guy

[-] const_void@lemmy.ml 14 points 1 year ago

Lienus Theft Tips

[-] RobMyBot@lemmy.ml 13 points 1 year ago

I couldn't believe the story about the water block.

[-] Comment105@lemm.ee 6 points 1 year ago

"we did what we did because no matter what the temps are, we thought it was so expensive that none of our viewers should come away from this video wanting to buy it"

[-] OsrsNeedsF2P@lemmy.ml 12 points 1 year ago

[-] Kushia@lemmy.ml 9 points 1 year ago

Tech nerd Jesus has arrived.

[-] bdonvr@thelemmy.club 2 points 1 year ago

For reviews sure, for entertainment? Sets me to sleep tbh

[-] colourlesspony@pawb.social 4 points 1 year ago

For me ltt is entertainment. I personally think they should pivot away from hardware reviews and do just do crazy projects, show cases of really ground breaking tech, and engineering type stuff like they have been. Hardware reviews kind of boring not the reason I watch ltt. It's really is like the topgrear of pc hardware imo.

[-] barsoap@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I mean they invested a ton into lab equipment, it'd be silly not to use it. What needs to happen is a clear split between entertainment and data-focussed content with data getting the time they need to get things right and entertainment the budget they need to make things crazy. Noone particularly cares about data accuracy when you're strapping a 1m diametre industrial fan to a PC case or crawl through bramble bushes to run a network cable but once you get bar charts involved you better dot your 'i's. Content that is both, e.g. an entertaining product review, needs the budget of both.

[-] oldlamps@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Pretty much this, nothing on his knowledge in what he's saying, but listening to Steve talk at length is tedious. The Internet is doing its Internet thing when people get too big and make a mistake, but there's no way people are tuning into Gamer's Nexus for entertainment.

[-] Syldon@feddit.uk 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Anyone can make a mistake, mistakes can be a good way to learn provided the damage is not too severe. It is not making a mistake or two that is the issue, it is the egregious way he puts making money at a higher value than correcting that mistake while other pay the cost. He has a drive to publish content even when he knows it has errors in it. He literally published a video that not only gave a review on a product fitted to the wrong part, but then went on to screw that company further by selling the prototype for click bait.

GN is not about entertainment; it is about getting good information on tech. Be a comedian as much as you like, but if your bread and butter is about giving a review, then at least make that review plausible. It is not a big ask.

[-] oldlamps@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

See, this is all just an overly emotional / reactionary read to me. Right now everyone is in a echo chamber, it's really odd from the outside looking in with everyone getting so worked up like this is the ulitmate sin. Steve is whipping everyone up into a hyperactive state for what endgame? I'm interested in what happens ultimately, but I'd be surprised if LTT does anything but continue to grow, and get better.

[-] Syldon@feddit.uk 0 points 1 year ago

I am a very pragmatic person. Credit should always go where credit is due, especially if there was the work put in to get the result. LMG are not putting in the work, they are grifting at the expense of others who are making an effort. More so, LMG are adamant that they can do no wrong. He has people working for him who can give the desired result, but they are hampered by the greedy cash grab.

GN are not the only ones that have issues with LMG. Listen to the comments from hardware unboxed regarding their subscriber base and the comments made to them in streams. I don't watch LTT, so I do not know how far back this goes, but then where does it become too much?

Should he be allowed to ruin start ups like he did? Me personally, I would say not at all.

He is more than happy to trash something for being bad, shouldn't he also expect the same experience in return?

GN made a follow up to the shady comments Linus made regarding this. GN have stated they will make no further comments on this. The ball is clearly in the court of LMG. The common sense thing to do would be to tighten up on the practises. Double down on being right first time. Be prepared to pull videos that show LMG in a bad light. It is pretty obvious from the reactions in here that to not take heed and ignore this, then he will be heading into a spiral dive.

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[-] Neato@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago

Who is GN? Haven't seen them before.

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[-] haohao@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago

Explanation,please

[-] MrFunnyMoustache@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Gamer's Nexus did a video criticizing LTT's methodologies and review process. Makes a lot of good points and I hope LTT takes it to heart and improve.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X3byz3txpso

Edit: After the shitshow that was Linus' response, and later their apology video, I was skeptical of their sincerity. Followed by Madison's horrible experiences and treatment at LMG, and I am done with LMG for good.

[-] Nioxic@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 year ago

They rejected it (see gns news video)

[-] MrFunnyMoustache@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I just saw it, that's really disappointing. I've been watching Linus' videos since he was still working for NCIX, back when Sandy Bridge was released, and while I have some disagreements with him on some topics, I found him to be generally trustworthy and honest, but his response to GN's criticism made me realise he lacks the integrity I thought he had.

It is very sad that his company has gotten so massive and they have so many employees that they have to produce an enormous amount of videos every week to function, and if they want to make videos with better quality content, they would need to either make less videos or hire more people. With all the debts LMG took for the lab, he really can't afford to slow down, so he needs to hire more people to help improve the quality of his video.

I unsubscribed for now, maybe if he makes an honest apology video and a change in their methods I will go back, since I generally enjoy their content from an entertainment standpoint, and like most of the hosts at LMG.

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