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illusion of rule (lemmy.cafe)
submitted 9 months ago by spujb@lemmy.cafe to c/196@lemmy.blahaj.zone

silly judgemental post not meant to be taken too seriously (unless you agree with me in which case im dead serious)

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[-] Smorty@lemmy.blahaj.zone 55 points 9 months ago

It's not blahaj zone, so yeah

[-] ArmokGoB@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 9 months ago

The mods here also abuse their power to remove posts they disagree with that don't violate any written rules.

[-] barsoap@lemm.ee 11 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

You mean they don't let you rules lawyer? The horror!

Lemmy.ml is right-out funny with its decisions sometimes, especially when it comes to politics. Write a couple of paragraphs of policital analysis going very much against tankie grain and use the word "muppet" once, "Deleted: Be polite". Meanwhile, people around you are throwing slurs at each other. Wisen up and avoid that and you'll get temporarily banned for "disinfo" for repeating something out loud that was written in the thread's article: No, Ukraine does not lay claim to the Russian territories it officially describes as "historically Ukrainian-speaking". The article said so, Ukraine says so, and never said anything else either.

Rules are only as good as the mods enforcing them, it's as simple as that.

[-] Smorty@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 9 months ago

Oh no, really? That's awful...

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[-] Toribor@corndog.social 50 points 9 months ago

I run my own tiny instance so that I can feel special. And so that I can overspend on cloud infrastructure and stress out about uptime.

[-] spujb@lemmy.cafe 16 points 9 months ago

beautiful human being

[-] AdmiralShat@programming.dev 6 points 9 months ago

How does federation work with hosting your own instance? Do you need to request federation with instances or is yes the default?

Was thinking of hosting my own instance just to tinker around with

[-] Toribor@corndog.social 9 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Federation is open by default but I never post anything to my home instance because no one is there. If I started posting on my own instance other people could theoretically subscribe to my communities the same way I subscribe to communities on other instances but since there are only two users on my instance it's pretty unlikely people would find it without me crossposting somewhere.

Benefits of me running my own instance are that I control my own user account and I'm not at the whims of another admin. I subscribe to content on lots of other instances and it all federates into mine which means I've been able to browse content when some of the big instances go down. I've got my own entrypoint to lemmy which feels a bit more neutral than choosing another instance to be 'home' for my user.

Downsides are that I have to pay for and maintain it myself which can sometimes be a serious pain. Because my instance only has two users my 'all' feed is basically a copy of my 'subscribed' feed plus a couple posts from communities that my wife subscribes to that I don't. That can make it hard to find new content without using something like lemmyverse.net.

If you're thinking about hosting your own instance I encourage you to give it a shot. I'd highly recommend the lemmy-ansible project on github which is both a guide and playbook for deploying the various lemmy docker containers using ansible. I'm a sysadmin by trade so running services like this is something I'm pretty familiar with but I've still found myself frustrated by Lemmy more than once. It's still a young project and can be frustratingly brittle and difficult to troubleshoot. That being said it's been a great learning experience and makes me feel like I'm doing my part to contribute to a better and more decentralized web.

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[-] HipsterTenZero@dormi.zone 40 points 9 months ago

Look at them, they come to this place when they know they are not pure. Lemmings use the instances, but they are mere trespassers. Only I, Vor, know the true power of the Fediverse. I was cut in half, destroyed, but through the dormi.zone, the shitposts called to me.

[-] Jayjader@jlai.lu 13 points 9 months ago

Wow, I think that's the first fedi instance I've ever seen that's more or less dedicated to a single video game. Very cool.

[-] Life_Inst_Bad@pricefield.org 10 points 9 months ago
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[-] Bandicoot_Academic@lemmy.one 34 points 9 months ago

What's wrong with world? (serious question) I know that ml has tankies and such but I've never heard of issues with world.

[-] LinkOpensChest_wav@lemmy.blahaj.zone 64 points 9 months ago

It's got a strong neoliberal bias. In my experience, the users on .world are fairly diverse in opinions and philosophy, but the mods tend to be pro-status quo centrists -- with exceptions, of course.

I recall a mod on their politics community who posted a mod-flaired comment informing us that "the United States is not a racist nation."

Some of their policies seem questionable as well, such as blocking piracy communities or disallowing archived versions of paywalled articles. It feels like the sort of thing reddit would have done to appease advertisers.

I'll admit I'm biased because I haven't had the greatest experience with some specific .world mods, one in particular who is fond of calling people "morons" for criticizing Biden. To be fair, I've seen another more rational mod remove that particular mod's comments, but it seems to keep happening anyway.

[-] Gork@lemm.ee 16 points 9 months ago

disallowing archived versions of paywalled articles

Really? I can't stand paywalled articles especially on sites where sharing the article (here, on Lemmy) is the main point of it all.

I always link to an archive.ph or archive.org version because not only does it help bypass all that crap but it also preserves it for future generations.

This platform is for all of us, not just those who can afford WaPo or The New York Times subscriptions.

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[-] Levsgetso@lemmy.zip 14 points 9 months ago

Let’s not forget the people who were just straight up banned when they expressed their disapproval of banning the pirate communities.

You’re definitely right, a lot of the time this place feels like Reddit lite

I didn't mention this because I was unaware it happened, but I'm not in the least bit surprised

[-] arymandias@feddit.de 13 points 9 months ago

My comment quoting the Mueller report got deleted from .world because I was spreading “mis information”.

And yet when they got hit by CSAM, it was up for hours. Now they're trying to blame image hosting sites when it's their own bad moderation that's to blame. Really awful mods and admins on that instance, from what I've seen.

[-] can@sh.itjust.works 5 points 9 months ago

I recall a mod on their politics community who posted a mod-flaired comment informing us that "the United States is not a racist nation."

To be fair, there is no option to comment not flaired as a mod once you become one. Which honestly seems like an oversight. I'm quite active so I've volunteered to mod some big communities that have asked since I'm more likely to see a report but I dislike that now it's as though I can't properly participate as just a normal user.

Oh I wasn't aware of this. Thanks for explaining.

Even so, that was quite the hot take even for someone to make as a regular user.

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[-] Levsgetso@lemmy.zip 24 points 9 months ago

Frankly, it’s just way too big, which can make performance bad, makes it a target for attacks and due to the huge user base it’s harder to upgrade. That’s why .world is still on 0.18.5 while most of lemmy is at 0.19.3.

Also, from what I’ve seen the admins can get a bit powertrippy.

[-] Ilovethebomb@lemm.ee 15 points 9 months ago

It's essentially Reddit 2.0, with all the baggage that implies.

[-] ImplyingImplications@lemmy.ca 12 points 9 months ago

https://lemmy.world/modlog?page=1&actionType=ModRemoveComment

As of writing this comment, one of the most recent reasons a mod has removed a comment was: reason: Comm rule 3: Claims that Ukraine does not have a Nazi problem

[-] TORFdot0@lemmy.world 17 points 9 months ago

It was removed by a mod from feddit.de though. Not like that is LW’s problem unless you want admins to personally intervene with the moderation of every community on their site

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[-] THE_MASTERMIND@feddit.ch 27 points 9 months ago

All i'm sayin is lemmy world doesn't need any more users it's aldready too big

[-] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 5 points 9 months ago
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[-] jsh@sh.itjust.works 23 points 9 months ago

sh.itjust.works my beloved 🙌🏾

[-] ReveredOxygen@sh.itjust.works 15 points 9 months ago

Unfortunately, shit very frequently doesn't work here

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[-] Flumpkin@slrpnk.net 23 points 9 months ago

lemmy.world requires an email and defederated from hexbear

lemmy.ml doesn't require an email but gets you banned for "genocide apologia" when arguing to vote for biden on hexbear or arguing that liberalism and fascism are two different things.

I came to lemmy thinking tankies are a myth so I had to learn the hard way :D

[-] Ilovethebomb@lemm.ee 22 points 9 months ago

They're both awful, but .ml is definitely a lot worse.

[-] isVeryLoud@lemmy.ca 20 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

~~I posted the Tiananmen square copypasta to a Lemmy.world community and got banned from the instance :^)~~

~~Good riddance tbh.~~

Edit: looks like I was only banned from technology@lemmy.ml and my client then decided to not let me post anywhere else on that instance.

[-] can@sh.itjust.works 5 points 9 months ago

Seriously? When? I want to see the modlog.

[-] isVeryLoud@lemmy.ca 11 points 9 months ago

Thanks for making me check, I'm actually just banned from that one community.

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[-] cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zone 18 points 9 months ago
[-] PuddingFeeling907@lemmy.ca 5 points 9 months ago

Gulps down maple syrup in support.

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[-] sexy_peach@feddit.de 13 points 9 months ago
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[-] airportline@lemmy.ml 11 points 9 months ago

I just wanted to be on the instance that gets updates the fastest :(

[-] Evotech@lemmy.world 7 points 9 months ago

Why does it matter if it's all federated anyway

[-] can@sh.itjust.works 16 points 9 months ago

It does and it doesn't in some key ways. Luckily we all have the option to register somewhere that aligns with our individual personal values (or selfhosting). However communities tend to grow on the large instances since the high user base gains automatic exposure via local and all' feeds. Meaning while we can choose who to trust our account with if the biggest communities are hosted elsewhere you're at the mercy of large instance admins either way.

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[-] MECHAGIC@lemmy.world 7 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

They should add the ability to move instances imo

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[-] DrCake@lemmy.world 7 points 9 months ago

What are some alternatives people suggest?

[-] ImplyingImplications@lemmy.ca 12 points 9 months ago

https://github.com/maltfield/awesome-lemmy-instances

This page lists all instances but also recommends some random ones with medium userbase and high uptimes. The idea of Lemmy is that users are spread out. Lemmy.world is massively inflated with users.

[-] zarkanian@sh.itjust.works 6 points 9 months ago

The problem with the smaller instances is that there's less support and it's more likely to shut down.

[-] jballs@sh.itjust.works 10 points 9 months ago

I like sh.itjust.works because it has the best name. Also the admins seem cool.

[-] can@sh.itjust.works 5 points 9 months ago

Also Canadian and on renewable energy.

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[-] can@sh.itjust.works 6 points 9 months ago

I'm quite fond of this one. Admin is easily reachable and reasonable IME.

[-] HerbalGamer@sh.itjust.works 5 points 9 months ago

yeah and we get to have profile pics and pictures in comments, which isn't on instances like lemm.ee

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[-] moosetwin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 9 months ago

world is the lesser of two evils, but I still recommend going for a different instance

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