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submitted 1 year ago by Kidplayer_666@lemm.ee to c/privacy@lemmy.ml

Hey there fellas! My father found this crap online. It immediately triggered my bull crap detectors. Is it actually something worth checking out, or snake oil?

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[-] jet@hackertalks.com 52 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

TOR is a decentralized overlay network

Safing is a new onion network that you pay to use, so not as pure as Tor but looks promising https://safing.io/spn/

Anything that's not open source, really won't cut the mustard as a decentralized VPN

This deeper network place looks super sketchy. They sell your local bandwidth and pay you using their own weird cryptocurrency. That's going to just set your self up for lots of abuse. I would highly recommend anyone avoid it, especially non-technical people

https://golden.com/wiki/Deeper_Network-3V4DGYA

All right reading the wiki summary, this place is closed source, getting venture funding, exploiting people's lack of knowledge of security, to resell bandwidth, but mostly to pump their own token. We've seen this time and time again with token based services, they pump the token, and they walk away. The promise of a utility token has not been borne out to be self sustaining yet. Everyone I see is backed by some investor pumping in money. Including sessions oxen token.

As far as their promise of a decentralized VPN goes it's a total lie. They're reselling people's bandwidth. Making them a proxy. But they're not doing any onion network. So peer-to-peer VPN if you like. There's a bunch of these different services out. There's nothing innovative about it. It's just oh you can get a retail IP address to do sketchy shit with, instead of the standard VPN provider data center IP address. The customers who want this are definitely not the people you want to be associated with

[-] 1bluepixel@lemmy.world 32 points 1 year ago

Blockchain

That word is your cue to stay away.

[-] Kidplayer_666@lemm.ee 9 points 1 year ago

It was what immediately threw my alarms off, thanks

[-] BlovedMadman@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

What do you mean, you can earn crypto for letting randoms use your "extra" bandwidth, what could possibly go wrong?

[-] TheImpressiveX@lemmy.ml 20 points 1 year ago

Personally I wouldn't get involved. It doesn't seem trustworthy at all.

[-] UnfortunateShort@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago

Tor. What you are looking for is Tor.

Would be great if we could make it faster tho.

[-] KrimsonBun@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago

speed is fine if its just for browsing, just a bit annoying in the streets to have to wait 30 seconds to make a search on my phone lol

[-] naeap@sopuli.xyz 8 points 1 year ago

I'm not really sure, if they know what a VPN actually is

[-] Mubelotix@jlai.lu 6 points 1 year ago

There are blatant lies on their front page. Stay away

[-] dukethorion@lemmy.one 2 points 1 year ago

Sentinel dVPN does/did the same thing. You'd connect to their network, pay a Node operator directly with the network's coin, and you'd use their connection. Don't know how safe it was, with respect to seeing the through-traffic, but it did work.

These people are definitely not "the first"

this post was submitted on 19 Aug 2023
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