According to Der Spiegel magazine, the videoconference was not held on a secret internal army network but on the WebEx platform.
You have to understand, this modern internet thing is an undiscovered country to our society.
I've been told it's not at all like a dump truck but more like a series of tubes.
Neuland! Es ist für uns alle Neuland! Merkelraute
Probably hacked through a cisco vulnerability long known to western three-letter-agencies, but hoarded instead of getting fixed.
There are some media reports claiming that there was simply another unidentified participant in the conference call and they didn't notice. 🤷
Lol “hacked”
My first thought, happened a few times. I understand that the old dinasours don’t get it, but maybe ffs pay 1 IT kid to set up meetings securely. I can send out Teams links at work where I have to manually let in everybody, I doubt there are no options for E2E encryption, 2FA, etc. for these types of needs
In response to this hacking, Germany should actually give Ukraine these missiles and plenty of Russian targets to aim them at.
The Lithuanian foreign minister has summed up the situation rather well with this Tweet.
" Putin is prepared to cross borders, subvert democratic governments, ignore treaties and rewrite the past in an attempt to legitimise the invasion and annexation of his so-called “lands of historic Russian interest”."
" And what about our response? We have taken every opportunity to declare what we are NOT going to do. We have imposed red lines on ourselves and announced them openly, while our adversary operates without any. "
Wait, we're talking about Russia, right? Sounds like the Republican party.
From what I understand, our chancellor has long claimed that we would need to control the missiles ourselves, which would possibly make us a belligerent. According to these leaks this isn't the case. This will increase pressure on shipping them to Ukraine so Russia may have shot itself in the foot once again.
Go for it Germany.
Russia comes across as the playground bully smacking kids in the mouth and then cries when they find out that one of the kids is ready to give them a smack down.
Fuck off Russia.
Lemmy is so filled with tankies, who Downvote anyone that's real. Be aware they are either paid (very little) by Putain, or literally 14yo basement dwelling fattos (some with more accumulated years, but not wisdom)
Honestly there aren't that many, they are just very prolific. I've blocked about 10-12 and seemed to have more or less solved the problem.
But there is also a problem with tankie moderation on Lemmy.ml, where god forbid you point out that China and russia have conquered countries in recent history and the US hasn't. They'll remove those. So I am thinking about just blocking Lemmy.ml and lemmygrad altogether.
Body shaming is gross.
Europe is standing up to Putin’s Russia. If Trump wins, they may have to stand up to him alone.
It’s admittedly a bit odd historically to be happy that the German war machine is coming back online, but Germany may very well be the heart of fortress Europe against Putin and Trump.
Hmm 1 out of 3’s not so bad
Time to punish Russia for spying on and exposing your military discussions by immediately sending Taurus missiles
It's time to stop the procrastinating in the hope that this will all die down and have an ending where everyone shakes hands and never speak of this again.
Russia needs stopping.
The Lithuanian PM has summed up the situation here ...
' "Now it seems like Europe understand this is Europe's problem," she said, but added that some countries still seem to have a hope that things will be sorted out by themselves.
Šimonytė also said that European countries must give everything they can from their arsenals, as well as ramp up manufacturing." '
This is the best summary I could come up with:
Germany has admitted the apparent hack by Russia of a military meeting where officers discussed giving Ukraine long-range missiles - and possible targets.
Germany's chancellor Olaf Scholz on Saturday called the apparent leak "a very serious matter and that is why it is now being investigated very carefully, very intensively and very quickly".
A spokeswoman for the German defence ministry told the AFP news agency that a secret air force conversation had been tapped.
Dmitry Medvedev, the deputy head of Russia's Security Council, said on Telegram: "Our age-old rivals - the Germans - have again turned into our sworn enemies."
Russia's Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov said on Saturday that the discussion betrayed the "cunning plans" of the German armed forces, which he said had committed "a blatant self-exposure".
It can be assumed "that the conversation was deliberately leaked by Russia at this point in time with a specific intention", namely "to prevent Taurus delivery by Germany", he said.
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