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My parents texted me about this "zevia" soda shit that's sweetened with stevia extract which is supposedly 0 calories, thus healthy. but knowing other "diet" sodas that doesn't mean its good for you, and i can't find any studies on the effects of it and i'm super confused. apparently indigenous people would use the whole leaf as a sweetener, but the extract may be different? is it a fruit juice situation, where removing the rest of the leaf removes all of the healthy shit? does anybody know?

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[-] iridaniotter@hexbear.net 36 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

IDK, but FYI the asapartame carcinogen meme from 2023 was yet another example of health news misinfo. It was classified as a Group 2B possible carcinogen, making it as possibly carcinogenic as coffee, and less carcinogenic than being a fry cook...

[-] HexbearGPT@hexbear.net 3 points 8 months ago

Oh thank you good to know. I got freaked out about it and started trying to use it much less.

[-] FourteenEyes@hexbear.net 19 points 8 months ago

They find the stevia and they extract it very-smart

[-] YearOfTheCommieDesktop@hexbear.net 19 points 8 months ago

its a sweetener so any "health benefits" come in the form of it not being sugar, which has a number of ill effects especially in the refined forms and lrge quantities we consume it in. the leaf isnt "good for you" on its own it just doesnt have the same negative effects as HFCS. And it is generally regarded as safe but idk if there have been many specific studies.

[-] OgdenTO@hexbear.net 15 points 8 months ago

I grew a stevia plant once and used the leaves for a sweetener as a try. It's kind of artificially sweet tasting with a weird aftertaste (at least to me). It an entirely different chemical structure to other sweeteners, which makes me question why there aren't studies about it.

Presumably the extract is made by water extraction and concentration. That is, soaking in water and then drying the water away. However, I don't know this for sure.

I found a study from 2002 that reviews safety tests of stevia compounds, and it appears that it is very safe. https://www.everstevia.com/Safety-Evaluation_of_Stevia.pdf

[-] Tommasi@hexbear.net 15 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

I don't think stevia has any known health benefits, but it's still a lot better for you than sugar. Some people argue it's a bit better than stuff like aspartame, but it probably doesn't matter unless you're consuming an ungodly amount of artificial sweeteners every day.

[-] sourquincelog@hexbear.net 15 points 8 months ago

Doesn't taste very good

[-] jackmarxist@hexbear.net 11 points 8 months ago

That's the thing from breaking bad which rich people consume on the daily.

[-] carpoftruth@hexbear.net 11 points 8 months ago

Zevia is good, we drink it regularly. They've got a bunch of flavours. And yeah it's just plant based non sugar sweetener. It's pretty anodyne as far as I have read

[-] NephewAlphaBravo@hexbear.net 10 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Never heard about it having any health benefits or whatever, it's just a sweetener. Probably not missing much by taking it out of the leaf.

[-] milistanaccount09@hexbear.net 9 points 8 months ago

In my experience it exacerbated my gas problems, so it's bad if that's a problem you have.

[-] appel@whiskers.bim.boats 8 points 8 months ago

No soda is healthy for you. Stevia extract (steviol glycosides) is just a zero calorie sweetener. It looks like sugar to your taste buds but you don't break it down so it doesn't give you any energy. I can't remember any specifics but I think stevia is less bad than other sweeteners like sucralose, aspartame, acesulfame k, etc. Those have some nasty side effects.

[-] D61@hexbear.net 8 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Stevia is a plant, literally an herb. The fresh leaves, when chewed, has a sweetish taste to it from some other chemical compound other than "sugar". If you're drinking hot stuff, you can drop whole fresh leaves into the hot liquid to steep and that should draw out some of the sweet flavor.

Get a bunch of leaves, dry them and grind them into a powder and you've got a sweetening agent that can be spooned out and mixed into things.

Not terrible for you like aspartame might be or with some dodgy gastro-intestinal effects of xylitol.

Sources: I worked at a grocery store that catered to the hippyish crowd for a long time and my spouse does small scale farm work at home and tried growing stevia for funsies.

[-] blakeus12@hexbear.net 5 points 8 months ago

interesting, thank you!

[-] comrade_pibb@hexbear.net 3 points 8 months ago

Looks a lot like basil iirc

[-] bennieandthez@lemmygrad.ml 6 points 8 months ago

The dose is the poison, stevia or really any other 0 calorie sweetener are fine as long as you don't consume them on excess. But really it all depends on your goals, are you on a diet or trying to lose weight? if so then its fine to use these sweeteners, if not don't.

[-] Cutecity@hexbear.net 4 points 8 months ago

Everyone has given great answers so far but I wanted to point out that since stevia tastes kinda bad, most stevia extracts I can find are actually mostly erythritol (another low cal sweetener) with a small portion of stevia. I find their marketing to be quite close to a lie, but in any case, both products are as safe as any transformed food you're gonna find, so fine with moderation. It can be argued to be better than sugar except if you wanna count the sugar taking habit, which both encourage.

[-] LENINSGHOSTFACEKILLA@hexbear.net 4 points 8 months ago

its zero calorie but also tastes disgusting so.

[-] Des@hexbear.net 3 points 8 months ago

no idea how a zero calorie sweetener can taste worse then aspartame but somehow it pulls it off

[-] LENINSGHOSTFACEKILLA@hexbear.net 4 points 8 months ago

I've tried a lot of the "natural" zero calorie sweeteners and none of them are great. Monk fruit is okay i guess?

[-] Des@hexbear.net 2 points 8 months ago

actually yes. expensive but tastes like a good simple syrup

[-] HexbearGPT@hexbear.net 4 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

It’s my favorite 0 calorie sweetener. But some people don’t like the taste i guess.

[-] abc@hexbear.net 2 points 8 months ago

stevia tastes like shit I love my sucralose (splenda)

[-] allthetimesivedied@hexbear.net 1 points 8 months ago

That shit sucks.

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