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Image is from @Parsani@hexbear.net, who got it from @RNAi@hexbear.net, who got it from Discord.


Thread update: Prigozhin's fucking dead.

rip-bozo


The BRICS summit will begin on Tuesday and end on Thursday, with various world leaders, politicians, and representatives meeting in Johannesburg, South Africa.

America's anxiety about the summit has been obvious. They have been complicating the event by pushing for the arrest warrant for Putin to be upheld if he steps foot in the country. While this is a remarkably dangerous and unhinged thing to do - even by America's standards - to the leader of a nuclear superpower who could end the world within an hour, it does betray their desperation. Unfortunately, for those of us who wanted to see Putin surrounded by an army of security guards fending off people holding handcuffs, he has sent his Foreign Minister, Lavrov, in his place. Additionally, America has likely been spreading rumors about the lack of interest in gaining new members in the organization.

With apparently 20 countries formally seeking membership and another 20 informally doing so, the bloc has been elevated, whether they like it or not, to the position of the international vanguard of the non-western world. It is extremely important to say that this is not the same as it becoming an anti-American bloc, and many of them (including original members Brazil and India) wish to keep a friendly relationship with the United States. Nonetheless, with the United States' policy of "if you are not with us, you are against us," and as the US seeks to weaken China, in coming years many of them might find themselves under hostile pressure.

BRICS has to try and solve many problems if they are going to chip away at America's stranglehold of the world economy. These problems - like mitigating the dollar's status as a global reserve currency, and America's dominant role in the world economy - are extremely complicated, and will takes years, even decades, to be overcome. Therefore, one should temper their expectations and excitement for this summit. It took tens of millions of deaths in cataclysmic wars, and then several more decades, for America to reach its current position. I see no reason to believe why its downfall will be any less bloody and elongated.

To end on a less depressing note, I've been searching for appropriate anagrams given the list of countries that seek to join BRICS. Obviously not all of them will make it in, but even so. The best I've come up with is HIBISCUS EMANCIPATES BBBBKKRVV.

(also, "bulletins and news discussion" can be rearranged to "libidinous newsstands uncles".)


Here is the map of the Ukraine conflict, courtesy of Wikipedia.

This week's first update is here in the comments.

This week's second update is here in the comments.

Links and Stuff


The bulletins site is down.

Examples of Ukrainian Nazis and fascists

Examples of racism/euro-centrism during the Russia-Ukraine conflict

Add to the above list if you can.


Resources For Understanding The War


Defense Politics Asia's youtube channel and their map. Their youtube channel has substantially diminished in quality but the map is still useful.

Moon of Alabama, which tends to have interesting analysis. Avoid the comment section.

Understanding War and the Saker: reactionary sources that have occasional insights on the war.

Alexander Mercouris, who does daily videos on the conflict. While he is a reactionary and surrounds himself with likeminded people, his daily update videos are relatively brainworm-free and good if you don't want to follow Russian telegram channels to get news. He also co-hosts The Duran, which is more explicitly conservative, racist, sexist, transphobic, anti-communist, etc when guests are invited on, but is just about tolerable when it's just the two of them if you want a little more analysis.

On the ground: Patrick Lancaster, an independent and very good journalist reporting in the warzone on the separatists' side.

Unedited videos of Russian/Ukrainian press conferences and speeches.


Telegram Channels

Again, CW for anti-LGBT and racist, sexist, etc speech, as well as combat footage.

Pro-Russian

https://t.me/aleksandr_skif ~ DPR's former Defense Minister and Colonel in the DPR's forces. Russian language.

https://t.me/Slavyangrad ~ A few different pro-Russian people gather frequent content for this channel (~100 posts per day), some socialist, but all socially reactionary. If you can only tolerate using one Russian telegram channel, I would recommend this one.

https://t.me/s/levigodman ~ Does daily update posts.

https://t.me/patricklancasternewstoday ~ Patrick Lancaster's telegram channel.

https://t.me/gonzowarr ~ A big Russian commentator.

https://t.me/rybar ~ One of, if not the, biggest Russian telegram channels focussing on the war out there. Actually quite balanced, maybe even pessimistic about Russia. Produces interesting and useful maps.

https://t.me/epoddubny ~ Russian language.

https://t.me/boris_rozhin ~ Russian language.

https://t.me/mod_russia_en ~ Russian Ministry of Defense. Does daily, if rather bland updates on the number of Ukrainians killed, etc. The figures appear to be approximately accurate; if you want, reduce all numbers by 25% as a 'propaganda tax', if you don't believe them. Does not cover everything, for obvious reasons, and virtually never details Russian losses.

https://t.me/UkraineHumanRightsAbuses ~ Pro-Russian, documents abuses that Ukraine commits.

Pro-Ukraine

Almost every Western media outlet.

https://discord.gg/projectowl ~ Pro-Ukrainian OSINT Discord.

https://t.me/ice_inii ~ Alleged Ukrainian account with a rather cynical take on the entire thing.


Last week's discussion post.


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[-] LargePenis@hexbear.net 49 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

New rankings after 14 days hiatus. Nothing big is happening, Ukraine vs Russia has never been this boring, West Africans are just fighting with words now thank god and even the Middle East is chilling and watching Saudi football.

Russia - Ukraine cuck n chad power ranking

Gigachad Chad Neutral Beta Male Virgin Cuck
Lukashenko (Forever chad) 149.200 radio frequency (beautiful stories of humane surrender thanks to this frequency) Kadyrov (he's back and he wants Poland) Zelensky (bro got his planes by begging, respect) ⬆️ Putin (not going to South Africa, no long speeches about niche Romanov events in 1843) ⬇️
Prigozhin (massive chad, no doubt at this point) SuriyakMaps (good neutral objective maps) Rybar (producing good maps as always) Shoigu + Russian defence ministry (gotta say that their performance has been impressive, still cucked tho) The Russian government (they're fumbling their economic policy like true neolibs)

International cuck n chad power ranking

Gigachad Chad Neutral Beta (Fe)Male Virgin Cuck
Bashar Al Assad (guaranteed spot for the Lion as always) Niger coup dudes (still hanging on, told the devil Nuland to fuck off) Fernando Villavicencio (don't know his politics, but no one should be shot while running for president) the UAE (if they're supporting a side in a third world conflict, support the other side) ECOWAS (restoooooring democracy)
Random boxer in Sweden (punched the Quran burner in the face) Daniel Ortega (dude is just trolling the US at this point) Libertarian presidential candidate in Argentina (absurd, but funny, but scary Victoria Nuland (the devil in human form, she's good at her job tho) Orgs "fighting" anti-semitism while defending fascism in Israel
US Solider that seeked asylum in North Korea (dude rocked too hard) Diane Feinstein (she just want to dies in the senate, hilarious that she still hasn't resigned) Plane lady (leveraged her public meltdown into an influencer career) Government response to Hawaii fires (you can feel the racism and contempt in UHD) Ron DeSantis (he's actively melting down, Trump's energy is too powerful)
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[-] gregheffley@hexbear.net 49 points 1 year ago

AES nations could beat the reactionary capitalists if they built armed mech suits

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[-] silent_water@hexbear.net 49 points 1 year ago

cw suicide


what a shame, two surface to air missiles to the back of the head is such a tragic way to commit suicide

rip-bozo

[-] dumpster_dove@hexbear.net 49 points 1 year ago

Woke: Epstein didn't kill himself

Bespoke: Prigozhin killed himself

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[-] WIIHAPPYFEW@hexbear.net 49 points 1 year ago

PRIGOOO THE MERCENARY LEADERRRR

PETERSBURG’S LOUDEST SONNNNN

THEY CAN STILL SEE HIS CHARRED-UP BODY STALKING THROUGH THE NIGHT

IN THE MUZZLE FLASH OF PRIGO’S GILDED GUNNNN

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[-] GVAGUY3@hexbear.net 48 points 1 year ago

Man Blowback is already making me mad and I'm not even that far in

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[-] hexaflexagonbear@hexbear.net 48 points 1 year ago

Why are they doing a dna test just send him an email and see if you get an ooo notification

[-] WilsonWilson@hexbear.net 48 points 1 year ago

Can we have a moment of silence on the news mega?

RF hit Chernigov Drama Theater with an Iskander and word on the street is 11 senior NATO got got i'm cryin rn

[-] SeventyTwoTrillion@hexbear.net 46 points 1 year ago

every fucking time I swear, Ukraine's like "I cannot believe Russia conducted this act of barbarity against unarmed civilians in a non-military building" and then a day later it turns out that it's been a warehouse or converted into a military building for months and populated by NATO officials

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[-] ZapataCadabra@hexbear.net 48 points 1 year ago

Prigo must have faked his own death. Prigo is more than a mercenary or hot dog vendor. He is light itself.

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[-] Starlet@hexbear.net 48 points 1 year ago

I really hope he's dead. But it'd be so funny if he's not

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[-] Mindfury@hexbear.net 48 points 1 year ago

I guess dropping the "But how can Wagner be neo-nazis if Prigo is Jewish?" line in lemmy worldnews threads would have been just too cursed

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[-] Zrc@hexbear.net 47 points 1 year ago
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[-] puff@hexbear.net 47 points 1 year ago

Prigozhin getting offed is actually pretty fucking funny. He was obviously militantly against the west but he was also a right wing lunatic. His antics were amusing but he was far too unpredictable to go far in modern Russian politics. Buh bye. The war will continue as normal since most Wagner troops already enlisted in the formal armed forces. The West is still losing in the Donbas.

[-] Awoo@hexbear.net 47 points 1 year ago

Hot take, France blew up Prigozhin because of Wagner in the Sahel.

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[-] notceps@hexbear.net 47 points 1 year ago

Smallish energy grid update. As most people already know relations between the EU and Switzerland are pretty bad and now it seems to crystalize itself in a sort of 'soft sanction'

Short primer on energy relation, swiss companies made quite some profit by basically buying up excess german and french energy production and selling it back to them when they needed it. Because switzerland has one or two mountains and built one or two big pump storage dams. Switzerlands energy grid acts like a battery for a few european nations for the most part germany.

EU has pushed switzerland out of several energy-plattforms, so like SWIFT but with electricity, which starts to threaten that the swiss grid is cut off from the rest of europe. What does this mean? Well overall energy grids would be a lot less secure and some nations would be affected. This means higher energy costs for switzerland for sure and smaller increases for most european countries, germany stands out because they've made use of this the most and are/were dependent on this quite a lot, thankfully german energy prices as well as their energy grid is very secure.

This whole thing is going to suck for people already struggling all over europe and it's mainly done for political brownie points.

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[-] smokeppb@hexbear.net 47 points 1 year ago

From IntelSlava:

🇺🇸⚡️ American rapper Chief Keef has thrown his support behind former President Trump amid the latter’s arrest by Georgia State authorities involving his case related to the 2020 election.

Chief Keef is a well known member of one of Chicago’s toughest gangs (O Block), and his endorsement suggests the mobilization of supporters by the former President might be reaching a militant stage.

Big if true? Trump won't be smoking resi in prison if the militant wing of O Block can help it? BRICS = Brick Squad???

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[-] Awoo@hexbear.net 47 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Russian Television is reporting that Prigozhin's body has been identified and that dna evidence will be done.

Oh Utkin too has been identified.

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[-] mkultrawide@hexbear.net 47 points 1 year ago

The admins are trying to hide the news from us, which tells me important news is happening.

[-] SeventyTwoTrillion@hexbear.net 47 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Correcting Mandel: Why arming Ukraine is the road to peace

An infuriating article; the ultimate NATO bootlicking Western Leftist position on the war, featuring all the brainworms one would expect. I think if this person set foot outside of a western country and talked to the people there, he would melt into a puddle of pure indignation.

A few choice quotes:

Mandel complains that Zelensky called Kissinger’s peace proposals a “stab in the back of Ukraine.” Mandel calls Kissinger “a comparative voice of sanity.” Take a deep breath, Dimension readers, as you digest that.

idk man, you're the one who is being even more bloodthirsty than Henry fucking Kissinger here.

Using the same logic, does he refer to “Palestine’s war against Israel,” “Grenada’s war against the United States,” or “The Falkland Islands’ war against Great Britain?”

As these are all obviously comparable.

Mandel is of the school that believes the US is responsible for a coup d’état in Ukraine in 2014. There is, of course, much evidence that the Americans were influencing civilians and political actors, blackmailing and lying. This is hardly surprising: the US has long tentacles, so goes imperialism.

There is also much evidence leading to a contrary conclusion: that the push for a radical change in government in Ukraine was led by a young, healthy and growing democratic nationalist movement upset with leaders perceived as too pro-Kremlin and deaf to the streets. Many scholars, union and community activists believe that, for the first time since the fall of the Soviet Union, Ukrainians had found a way of harnessing the popular will.

was it "harnessing the popular will" when fascists burned Russians alive in Odessa?

However, Mandel has no proof the US has blocked negotiations. With so many players involved, how would that happen, exactly? Does Mandel really believe that, acting for the Americans, Boris Johnson, in a lightning visit to Kyiv on the morning of April 9, 2022, laid down the law that Zelensky was not allowed to negotiate with “war criminal” Putin? That Zelensky from that point on was only following NATO’s orders to disastrously fight on?

...yes...?

In constructing his narrative, Mandel picks and chooses from a few sources: quotes from President Biden and an American general, something from the CIA and something else from the Rand Corporation. He only cites such sources when they bolster his narrative; he ignores them when they do not.

...

Mandel never utters a word about Russia’s iron-clad clampdown of the media, never nods in the direction of the thousands of dissidents tossed in prison or forced into exile.

NEITHER DO YOU, ABOUT UKRAINE!

More than a year after deep, serious and thorough investigations into the cold-blooded execution of civilians in Bucha, Mandel still cannot sit down at his computer and admit that the Bucha massacre was real and horrific.

There are pictures, forensic examinations, satellite images tracing troop movements. Participating soldiers and commanders from the regiments have been identified. There are recordings of Russian cell phone messages and military radio intercepts. There is video footage. There are autopsy reports. There are reports totalling thousands of pages from a range of independent, credible international organizations, including the UN Commissioner for Human Rights that reports the summary executions of 73 civilians. A team of New York Times journalists spent a month investigating what transpired. There is ample evidence of war crimes.

I've seen the videos of Ukrainians murdering Russian civilians in recaptured areas and then throwing them down hills into a mass grave. Russia has no monopoly on atrocities even if we accept that Russians did kill civilians in Bucha. Fuck you and fuck off.

Yes, in part, Mandel is right: Putin may well have invaded Ukraine because he wanted to protect those Ukrainians whose cultural identity was first and foremost Russian.

The Soviet Union is still alive in the memories of many. More than a million Ukrainians are now refugees in Russia.

That said, we on the left have to stand firm when it comes to the rights of sovereign countries.

No, we really do fucking not. Israel can eat my shit and hair. So can the United States, and the United Kingdom, and every other western country.

These people are so fucking insufferable. This guy would be a great redditor.

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[-] SorosFootSoldier@hexbear.net 47 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

lol cnn was just showing a memorial for pringles outside the wager hq in russia, just brainworms or did anyone actually love him?

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[-] VILenin@hexbear.net 46 points 1 year ago

Browsing through the deluge of ~~Twitter~~ X nobodies and found something that perfectly encapsulates a liberal’s thought process.

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[-] DanicaTheRebel@hexbear.net 46 points 1 year ago

I've noticed that in the past couple of years, especially since the whole Ukraine thing, that there is a skyrocketing amount of concern trolling from the U.S. government and Russian guasanos that Russia is becoming a Chinese colony. I've seen multiple YT videos from CIA funded channels like Infographics about how "China is Russia's real enemy".

This is extraordinarily ironic because America literally directs the foreign policy of its EU vassal states. Like they can't even do business with other countries if America does not consent.

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[-] MoreAmphibians@hexbear.net 46 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Prigozhin has released a new video, presumably from Africa. He's got a delightful new costume and it looks like he's finally left St. Petersburg.

https://twitter.com/yarotrof/status/1693682355980890216

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[-] GayTuckerCarlson@hexbear.net 46 points 1 year ago

He's up there, right now, executing deserters from God's army with a sledgehammer. I am holding back tears as I eat a hotdog in his memory.

Enjoy Paradise, Chef. You finally got the ammo you wanted

[-] FuckyWucky@hexbear.net 46 points 1 year ago

If the ancap clown becomes President and goes ahead with destroying all the Government department that he claims to (mostly social services), i hope there will be riots.

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[-] Awoo@hexbear.net 45 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I'm late to the party. Is he actually dead or is he in the desert? Who has confirmed what?

Other passengers? Named? Families interviewed yet? Do the other people actually exist?

I don't think you should believe he's dead without being shown a body lmao

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