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AOC decries ‘unfolding genocide’ in Gaza, urges halting weapons to Israel (www.aljazeera.com)

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[-] Immersive_Matthew@sh.itjust.works 85 points 8 months ago

I really do wonder how much of Gaza and its people are left standing and alive? Like what the real numbers of deaths are as the fog of war makes it so hard to really know. I fear once the world really reacts it will be too late. Maybe already is. So upsetting. All the wars are upsetting to me and so unnecessary.

[-] underisk@lemmy.ml 93 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Targeting the hospitals was a deliberate tactic to make this kind of information harder to reliably gather and disseminate.

[-] filister@lemmy.world 79 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Targeting journalists and UNRWA was also a deliberate attack to suppress the information going out of Gaza and also to cause the biggest possible suffering to the civilian population.

[-] underisk@lemmy.ml 43 points 8 months ago

I feel its also important to note that they target more than just the journalists themselves, they also target their families. It's really is staggering how deep the depravity goes.

[-] IndustryStandard@lemmy.world 24 points 8 months ago

Targeting all network and power infrastructure also prevented many people from sharing information on their phones.

[-] queermunist@lemmy.ml 31 points 8 months ago

If Israel succeeds, we'll never know.

[-] Immersive_Matthew@sh.itjust.works 7 points 8 months ago

Is it not the opposite?

[-] Pascal@lemdro.id 20 points 8 months ago

Part of "israel" succeeding would mean obscuring the situation by continuing to kill journalists and by propaganda

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[-] sadreality@kbin.social 7 points 8 months ago

We will see the result but not the details of the war crimes committed. IDF is working to cover their tracks, they know that once info starts coming out they will face backlash.

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[-] Alsephina@lemmy.ml 85 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Better late than never I guess

no world in which the forced famine of 1.1 million people cannot be considered genocide

She should consider also applying this knowledge to the embargo on the Cuban people

Edit: Obviously not trying to downplay the genocide in Gaza if it came across like that.

[-] otter@lemmy.ca 71 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

I think she's done that as well

https://ocasio-cortez.house.gov/media/press-releases/statement-rep-ocasio-cortez-demonstrations-cuba

We also must name the U.S. contribution to Cuban suffering: our sixty-year-old embargo. Last month, once again, the U.N. voted overwhelmingly to call on the United States to lift its embargo on Cuba. The embargo is absurdly cruel and, like too many other U.S. policies targeting Latin Americans, the cruelty is the point. I outright reject the Biden administration’s defense of the embargo. It is never acceptable for us to use cruelty as a point of leverage against every day people

[-] Alsephina@lemmy.ml 18 points 8 months ago

Ooh based

[-] TimLovesTech@badatbeing.social 46 points 8 months ago

AOC has been calling for a cease fire and more aid since last year. She might not have used the word genocide until now, but it's not like she has been cool with things up till now either.

[-] queermunist@lemmy.ml 30 points 8 months ago

The fact that Alex Jones beat her to the punch on calling it a genocide is embarrassing.

[-] Belastend@lemmy.world 22 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

The only reason he did that was because it allowed him to rail against jews. Had it been done by America, Jones would have cheered.

[-] Tangentism@lemmy.ml 20 points 8 months ago

Had it been done by America

The US isn't complicit. It (along with several European countries) are active participants by supplying weapons, intelligence and as is rumoured, bodies on the ground

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[-] SuddenDownpour@sh.itjust.works 9 points 8 months ago

Honestly this whole drama is so immature.

"What Israel is doing is terrible, on top of their mistreatment of the Palestinian people for decades they've now crossed a line and seem to be willing to remove them all from existence. This is a genocide, and we should enforce a cease fire and an embargo."

"What Israel is doing is terrible, on top of their mistreatment of the Palestinian people for decades they've now crossed a line and are killing people indiscriminately. The fact that some people are calling it a genocide is telling of the immense gravity of the situation, and we should enforce a cease fire and an embargo."

"How could you NOT call it a genocide??!?!?"

Both statements are virtually the same thing, have the same worries and are calling for the same solutions, yet the later get shat on because it doesn't virtue signal. There are lots of seemingly dumb reasons why politicians and PR departments may choose to use some terms and avoid others, and some of those decisions are mere pragmatism that doesn't change in essence their goal or effect. I think AOC has flaws, just like almost any politician, but making a gigantic deal out of this smells like it's been promoted by grifters looking to start drama.

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[-] driving_crooner@lemmy.eco.br 19 points 8 months ago

Pretty bad comparison when Cubans have higher life expectancy than Americans.

[-] Alsephina@lemmy.ml 43 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

That's thanks to the excellent healthcare system. The country is still lacking in food, medical supplies, and building materials — all of which could just be imported as necessary like any other country if not for the embargo.

[-] TopRamenBinLaden@sh.itjust.works 9 points 8 months ago

At this point, I think some American politicians and policy makers are afraid of Cuba surpassing the US in living conditions if the embargo is dropped, and Cuba is given a fair shot. A thriving Cuba would serve as fodder for a leftward push in politics in the US, and I don't think any of the lobbyists or their puppets want that, at all.

Not to mention that, given the average age of said politicians and policy makers, one can only assume many of their brains are heavily washed with the Red Scare era propaganda.

[-] zkrzsz@hexbear.net 22 points 8 months ago

And it would be even better if not for the embargo.

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[-] psycho_driver@lemmy.world 53 points 8 months ago

Nothing 'unfolding' about it. It's been mission genocide since day one.

[-] maynarkh@feddit.nl 20 points 8 months ago

Yeah, it's more "intensifying".

[-] muad_dibber@lemmygrad.ml 15 points 8 months ago

AOC knows this, and still votes for or present on all of Israel's military aid packages.. Like most democrats, she knows how to say one thing for optics, but do the exact opposite.

[-] muad_dibber@lemmygrad.ml 39 points 8 months ago

I really wish people would see through AOC's crocodile tears when it comes to Israel... she has consistently voted FOR all of Israel's funding bills in congress.

She's even to the right of the rest of "the squad", and was the only member to not vote against a 1B USD package to fund Israel's Iron Dome.

[-] Assian_Candor@hexbear.net 25 points 8 months ago

The thing about urges is you don’t have to act on them

[-] muad_dibber@lemmygrad.ml 21 points 8 months ago

After AOC voted present rather than no on a 1B USD funding bill for Israel's iron dome:

According to the congresswoman, "In the macro of national impact, I probably should have gone with my values - which would be to vote 'No' - but in the micro, I do believe this created a window in our community to bring all folks to the table."

[-] HumanBehaviorByBjork@hexbear.net 17 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

translation: my seat is vulnerable because i've failed to build a durable progressive coalition and there are zionists in my district who would do everything they can to end my career

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[-] FiniteBanjo@lemmy.today 21 points 8 months ago

Yeah I like to think that the threats to remove congressmen who use the word genocide to describe the actions of an ally have started to lose power since the ICJ ruling and the more recent War Crimes accusations.

[-] SoyViking@hexbear.net 21 points 8 months ago

Wow! I'm so impressed with her immense moral courage! It is so brave to do the right thing only when doing so becomes less damaging to your career than not doing it would be.

[-] linkshandig@lemm.ee 20 points 8 months ago

Oh good, the bullying worked

[-] RealFknNito@lemmy.world 14 points 8 months ago

The focus groups on whether or not using the term genocide would lose or gain support finally reported in.

A reminder that even the good politicians fucking aren't.

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[-] Tinidril@midwest.social 10 points 8 months ago

AOC has had this position from the start. I'm getting so sick of edgy cynicism. If you really gave a shit then you would be paying more attention instead of seeking it.

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[-] muad_dibber@lemmygrad.ml 8 points 8 months ago

She has yet to actually vote no against any Israel funding bill. The bullying hasn't worked yet.

https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/aoc-iron-dome-criticism-failed-attempt-defending-vote