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[-] Frank@hexbear.net 63 points 6 months ago

Expertise is when you undercount a country's industrial capactiy but 1,200%

[-] Frank@hexbear.net 33 points 6 months ago

Also, I was recently told we couldn't build out automation on a massive scale because each year of robot labor required thousands of years of human labor. Well how now brown cown!?!?!?!?!

[-] Tunnelvision@hexbear.net 32 points 6 months ago

Holy fuck Americans really will bash their heads against Chinese steel. some-controversy

[-] zifnab25@hexbear.net 28 points 6 months ago

Experts went to China to count robots

You'll never guess what they found

[-] viva_la_juche@hexbear.net 13 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

how many robots does China have

expert: uhhhh shit idk… like… at least … idk 30?

[-] FlakesBongler@hexbear.net 44 points 6 months ago

New Anti-China Rhetoric: They're building SkyNet folks

[-] FourteenEyes@hexbear.net 28 points 6 months ago
[-] Joncash2@lemmy.ml 22 points 6 months ago

What are you talking about? That's already old news, they've been saying it for more than 5 years now.

https://www.bgp4.com/2019/05/10/what-is-chinas-skynet-yes-it-is-what-you-think-it-is/

[-] Lemmygradwontallowme@hexbear.net 23 points 6 months ago
[-] Frank@hexbear.net 30 points 6 months ago

afaik London is far and away the most intensely surveilled place in the world, which I find endlessly funny because it's both exactly what Orwell predicted and excellent evidence tht he was a big dummy.

[-] Lemmygradwontallowme@hexbear.net 21 points 6 months ago

excellent evidence tht he was a big dummy.

Tbf, a rat kens a rat, considering his links with the Information Research Department of the U.K, his snitching list, and his links to the BBC.

Really, any amateur gumshoes worth their weight must know he's fed.... he micht be a fox, weasel and snake, but he's not a dummy....

[-] RyanGosling@hexbear.net 15 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

This is a 4D chess move by the Chinese communists to elevate woke feminists in the west into becoming Sarah Conner and undermining men

[-] TreadOnMe@hexbear.net 26 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

They are wrong, China isn't waiting to catch up to the leading edge, they ARE the leading-edge. The things that Chinese student robotics teams are able to come to international competition with is genuinely crazy, with the amount of programming that is required. If there is any gap it is the technology waiting to catch up to their expertise.

Not only that but China is really the only country that does genuine quality control outside of their automotive industry because they are willing to completely redesign their factories and processes around it.

It is crazy to me that people still genuinely underestimate China.

[-] Tunnelvision@hexbear.net 11 points 6 months ago

People genuinely believe that the US is perpetually 30 years ahead of its competitors as a rule of thumb. They do not even have the capacity to understand how amazing Chinas rise is.

[-] LibsEatPoop@hexbear.net 25 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Genuine question - what happens to the workers who get replaced? I know in Western countries, we'd all be left jobless (leading to a crisis in capitalism). But even with this high a rate of replacement, it doesn't seem like China's going through an unemployment crisis or that the masses are resentful of the jobs they are losing. So something must be different. For a while I can imagine the workers fired from one plant can go to another, but given this has been a priority for the govt. for close to a decade at this point, there has to be something more substantial being done for the people. Are they in mass moving into the service sector? That cannot be sustainable solution. And I can't imagine agriculture itself isn't being automated either, if some are moving back to the villages. Others might move to higher-tier manufacturing that isn't replaced as of yet...but none of these feel like the solution. I'm just reminded of the fact that machines cannot produce value, only human labor can, and am just left wondering what's happening.

[-] yogthos@lemmy.ml 33 points 6 months ago

My understanding is that currently the focus is on retraining the workers for higher skilled jobs, and China does have a declining population, so a lot of the automation will be replacing workers who are retiring. So, I don't think China is quite at the point where automation actually taking jobs away that people want.

However, once China reaches the point where a lot of the need for labor is eliminated, we'll get to see if China really is willing to embrace communism. If the answer is yes, then work could become an entirely voluntary endeavour. Everyone could be provided with universal basic services such as housing, food, healthcare, and education, and then people can just choose to spend their time any way they like.

[-] Awoo@hexbear.net 28 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

and then people can just choose to spend their time any way they like.

24/7 rave bunny-vibe

[-] Mardoniush@hexbear.net 10 points 6 months ago

China has managed not to destroy pre capitalist forms of community as completely as earlier capitalist construction did in the West. So this might be fairly easy, as people have clear social roles and responsibilities not tied to production

[-] yogthos@lemmy.ml 9 points 6 months ago

Indeed, the degree of atomization of society in the west is frankly incredible. I saw studies showing how most people barely even have friends anymore, let alone feeling as a part of any sort of a community.

[-] idkmybffjoeysteel@hexbear.net 19 points 6 months ago

They are being sent to concentration camps sadly 😔

[-] TheLastHero@hexbear.net 18 points 6 months ago

straight to the c*m milking factories, they tried to warn us but the world didn't listen peterson-pain

[-] Sons_of_Ferrix@hexbear.net 10 points 6 months ago

I think their industry is growing so fast the robots probably haven't displaced much if any labor.

[-] Bay_of_Piggies@hexbear.net 5 points 6 months ago

Maybe systematic retraining and programs to help people find new work dwarfing those in the west? I'd be interested to know the specific answer to your question though.

[-] Lucien@hexbear.net 13 points 6 months ago

Fucking based

[-] InevitableSwing@hexbear.net 11 points 6 months ago

China: Let's develop robotics at top speed.

US: Let's develop AI-robotics at top speed so in theory we could increase the speed of an assembly line 10 fold. The AI will never work but who cares? We can grift on it for years.

[-] Spacehooks@reddthat.com 5 points 6 months ago

Ready for the pop drop.

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