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submitted 7 months ago by Hohsia@hexbear.net to c/technology@hexbear.net

And C-Suites are freaking the fuck out (my company) because we’re completing all of the work in <40 hours per week, which causes them to lose money lmao It is so fucking wild to me how no one sees the glaring problem here

All of this AI shit should’ve stayed as nothing more and nothing less than a tool to make the very monotonous work done by everyone just a tad easier.

It feels like we’re in such a massive fucking bubble right now on the scale of how people have talked about the sub prime mortgage crisis.

My boomer ass parents just keep telling me to wait for things to get better, but how can you wait for things to get better when things are just statistically worse for everyone

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[-] nat_turner_overdrive@hexbear.net 40 points 7 months ago

The only time I use LLMs is when some dickhead sends me an email that could have been one sentence but through the powers of ChatGPT has been made into four paragraphs of empty bullshit. I tell ChatGPT to turn my one sentence reply into a long reply. Then I tell it longer. Then I tell it longer. Then I copy and paste that bullshit and fire it off to Mr. LLM and hope he chokes.

[-] umbrella@lemmy.ml 20 points 7 months ago

i'm stealing this idea

[-] roux@hexbear.net 14 points 7 months ago

After it's long enough, tell it to rewrite it in Shakespeare-speak

[-] nat_turner_overdrive@hexbear.net 23 points 7 months ago

I had some fun turning technical stuff into Mao-style speech. Failing to perform critical updates is a twelfth type of liberalism.

[-] roux@hexbear.net 20 points 7 months ago

This just makes me want a Mao Ipsum generator lol.

[-] rah@feddit.uk 23 points 7 months ago

we’re completing all of the work in <40 hours per week

And this is a change due to using an LLM? Assuming so, I'm absolutely astonished. Can I ask what work the quicker workers do, and how an LLM has helped them to be quicker?

[-] supafuzz@hexbear.net 47 points 7 months ago

if your job is generating bullshit then the bullshit generators are a godsend

[-] Antiwork@hexbear.net 19 points 7 months ago
[-] abc@hexbear.net 12 points 7 months ago

a lot of my job is 'emails' but I can't just use a LLM for responses - it'd be so obviously bad and hallucinate solutions to problems that don't exist. god I wish.

[-] impartial_fanboy@hexbear.net 5 points 7 months ago

If you have enough emails from your job you could fine-tune one of the models on them and it would probably do pretty okay. It'd be really cheap cus it's not that much data, assuming you don't have the hardware to do it yourself.

[-] ped_xing@hexbear.net 4 points 7 months ago

It would sound like me, sure. It would generate emails saying that a course of action will or won't succeed. The main difference would be that my emails are informed by investigating things often not captured in the email chain to which I'm replying. robo-ped_xing would be just as confident as me, much cheaper, faster and utterly wrong very often. If that's an OK trade-off, they could have replaced me with a magic 8-ball years ago.

[-] bleepbloopbop@hexbear.net 7 points 7 months ago

then your job isn't just emails, it's the independent research and knowledge/experience.

But yeah, your job has to be basically pure bullshit for this to work.

[-] alexandra_kollontai@hexbear.net 2 points 7 months ago

But do you need to come up with the right answer to be paid?

[-] ped_xing@hexbear.net 1 points 7 months ago

It's kinda like kicking the extra point in American football. I don't have to get it right 100% of the time but I'm sure I'd be looking for work if my average were significantly lower.

[-] abc@hexbear.net 2 points 7 months ago

Yeah, I could easily train a model on the multiple evernote notebooks I've accumulated over the years but to be honest it'd just basically replace me copying & pasting from Evernote and not actually save me any significant time on the brunt of my job - which is usually solving new and unique problems via email that the software engineers cause with every release.

[-] BelieveRevolt@hexbear.net 7 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Can I ask what work the quicker workers do

It's the CEO, probably.

[-] Hohsia@hexbear.net 3 points 7 months ago
[-] rah@feddit.uk 1 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Thanks for your response. Alas, I'm still completely oblivious as to how ChatGPT helps you work quicker.

[-] SmokinStalin@hexbear.net 1 points 7 months ago

Most emails are formulaic bullshit. The exact type of writing llms were designed for.

[-] BurgerPunk@hexbear.net 22 points 7 months ago

My boomer ass parents just keep telling me to wait for things to get better

This is a massive problem. Boomers cannot get it through their heads that it is not going to get better

[-] psivchaz@reddthat.com 2 points 7 months ago

It probably will. Human history is mostly a series of shit getting worse, then getting a lot better. We may one day hit an insurmountable wall, but I don't think this is it. The trick is that it won't get better on its own. People have to actively give a shit to make things better.

[-] BurgerPunk@hexbear.net 5 points 7 months ago

The trick is that it won't get better on its own. People have to actively give a shit to make things better.

The trick is that the conditions for people to make things better need to exist first. What I mean by saying that things are not going to get better is because the conditions to make things better dont exist in the US right now. I'm not making a pessimistic statement just a realistic one about the current conditions in the US

[-] 7bicycles@hexbear.net 20 points 7 months ago

All of this AI shit should’ve stayed as nothing more and nothing less than a tool to make the very monotonous work done by everyone just a tad easier.

If the work can be done by an AI LLM it does not need doing. I'm serious here. Power to the workers to use it to make their job easier due to bullshit rules but even viewed through a capitalist lense at the point where whatever you require can be done by a markov chain cranked to 11 and it's not nigerian prince scams you'd be better off not doing it. It's just theater at that point

[-] Hohsia@hexbear.net 12 points 7 months ago

💯 but ya know this is the bad place after all so we have to play this silly game of improv to make billionaires feel better

[-] CantaloupeAss@hexbear.net 18 points 7 months ago

How does completing your work faster make the company lose money?

[-] Grownbravy@hexbear.net 19 points 7 months ago

Wage vs Salary

[-] AcidLeaves@hexbear.net 17 points 7 months ago

Consultants having billable hours I bet

[-] umbrella@lemmy.ml 13 points 7 months ago

more like making the company not earn more money than it already is

[-] marxisthayaca@hexbear.net 12 points 7 months ago

And C-Suites are freaking the fuck out (my company) because we’re completing all of the work in <40 hours per week, which causes them to lose money lmao It is so fucking wild to me how no one sees the glaring problem here

Explain? This is so fucking funny. Like they could just give you more work or just cut the work week to 32 hrs.

[-] Hohsia@hexbear.net 11 points 7 months ago

A bunch of super duper serious old white dudes have been cracking down because most of us have been doing our work in less than 40 hours lmao it is absolutely absurd man

[-] marxisthayaca@hexbear.net 6 points 7 months ago
[-] Hohsia@hexbear.net 10 points 7 months ago

Honestly contemplating quitting this bullshit altogether and finding some friends and living together in a house we all share

Shit just keeps getting worse and I was told it would get better eventually (lmfao)

And what makes it more bizarre is that I did literally all I was told to do- went to a 4 year university in a STEM program, graduated with essentially no debt but still can’t find a job that pays anymore than 80K. It’s all a fucking scam

[-] marxisthayaca@hexbear.net 5 points 7 months ago

I read Bullshit Jobs and had an existential crisis going through some of the things I recognized on my own job. The pointlessness of work in America is often missed. I would rather we be efficient and got done in 32 hrs, instead of wasting away doing 40 or 50 hrs.

[-] alexandra_kollontai@hexbear.net 4 points 7 months ago

I'm completely with you on this. I want to live in a commune with the kind and capable people I've met on the internet.

[-] Rx_Hawk@hexbear.net 3 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

No debt and 80k salary? Do you have kids or live in LA or something? Sounds like plenty to me.

[-] Hohsia@hexbear.net 3 points 7 months ago

It’s plenty, but I have a chronic illness that my insurance won’t cover meds for (-2K each month+ another 1200 for rent + car payment + car insurance + groceries) and it’s an extremely volatile industry where the pay is based a lot on bonuses

So 75 base but typically end up around 80 with bonuses.

But yeah, deeply contemplating quitting corporate America altogether and working in the service industry

[-] Rx_Hawk@hexbear.net 1 points 7 months ago

Ah yes privatized medicine at its finest. I’m sorry you have to deal with that, I didn’t mean to come off as condescending but I realize I might have.

[-] Hohsia@hexbear.net 3 points 7 months ago

Nah no worries at all, I appreciate the understanding. I think edge cases like mine are what causes people to innocently miss the reality of living in the United States.

I truly have trouble ordering my medicine because it enrages me how some of those low-level pharmaceutical employees can charge thousands of dollars for life-altering medicine so nonchalantly

And it’s truly incomprehensible because my medicine is on the cheap end of specialty medicines.

Words can’t describe this country and if it were easier to get out, you’d see mass exoduses everyday.

[-] rah@feddit.uk 2 points 7 months ago
[-] Hohsia@hexbear.net 2 points 7 months ago

Typical bullshit tech job. Not quite a developer but not an analyst

[-] rah@feddit.uk 3 points 7 months ago

Typical bullshit tech job.

Thanks but unfortuntely I've no idea what that means.

[-] Chapo_is_Red@hexbear.net 4 points 7 months ago

I thought you all were already doing all your work in less than 40 hours per week? Isn't that why most corporate bureaucrats feel compelled to constantly talk about how "busy" they are?

[-] Hohsia@hexbear.net 2 points 7 months ago

I’m convinced that it’s about social control

Ya know all the talks about a potential 4 day work week? This shit squashes those types of conversations right away

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