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Google to workers: "this is a workplace, not college." (www.axios.com)

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[-] quarrk@hexbear.net 116 points 2 years ago

CEO Sundar Pichai said, "We have a culture of vibrant, open discussion... But ultimately we are a workplace and our policies and expectations are clear: this is a business, and not a place […] to fight over disruptive issues or debate politics."

Our apolitical business decisions
Their disruptive protests

A billion-dollar contract with Israel is a political decision. There is no way to oppose it except politically. Own the decisions you make Google.

[-] QuillcrestFalconer@hexbear.net 51 points 2 years ago

IBM CEO Thomas J. Watson, on the context of selling machines to be used in Nazi concentration camps, said "We have a culture of vibrant, open discussion... But ultimately we are a workplace and our policies and expectations are clear: this is a business, and not a place […] to fight over disruptive issues or debate politics."

[-] anarchrist@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 2 years ago

They made jeopardy bot CEO??

[-] QuillcrestFalconer@hexbear.net 4 points 2 years ago

That was the name of IBM's CEO during the war according to Wikipedia, IBM's founder I believe

[-] Evilphd666@hexbear.net 27 points 2 years ago

not a place […] to fight over disruptive issues or debate politics.

Then stop forcing your workers to maintain the sorce of those "disruptive issues or debateable politics". I hope someone makes a parody of Google with the Nazis. Akin to the whole "Are we the baddies" skit.

"Look you don't have to like skulls or the mas murder of entire groups or operating and maintaining the machines of those murders. But this is a WORKPLACE and not a college campus."

[-] anarchoilluminati@hexbear.net 8 points 2 years ago

This is a concentration camp, not summer camp.

[-] anarchrist@lemmy.dbzer0.com 66 points 2 years ago

Oh I'm sorry I was confused because of the constant need to learn shit and the fact you appropriated the word campus to describe your wankerdomes.

[-] emizeko@hexbear.net 33 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

"workplace" that makes you constantly update an internal résumé would like you to think you have a job

[-] GalaxyBrain@hexbear.net 59 points 2 years ago

Remember waaaaaaaaaay back when people had a generally favorable opinion of Google?

[-] SuperZutsuki@hexbear.net 20 points 2 years ago

1999? Just barely remember searching for Pokemon and DBZ stuff in the computer lab

[-] GalaxyBrain@hexbear.net 24 points 2 years ago

Yeah and earlier as well as through the first half of the 2000s. They just had a good search engine, by all reports it was a solid place to work and the branching out they did was having stuff like image searches. Anyone remember the image search game they had for a while? You'd be hooked up randomly online with someone and both get sent the same random image from their image results and would both type in one word descriptors until you got the same one and then you'd move to the next image and there was a time limit and a scoring system for time amount of images completed and a leader board. They used the results to improve keyword accuracy. If you wanna crowd source some data, host a fun game that is hosted on Google so it's not blocked by school computers, it's sorta free lavor but it seems more humane than paying someone a cent per image tag and you'd get better data as well.

[-] SSJ2Marx@hexbear.net 21 points 2 years ago

If you wanna crowd source some data, host a fun game

I remember when I was a teen, for a while the buzzword tech bros really liked was "gamification", which at the time meant turning something boring into something interesting with a scoring system. Nowadays it's almost exclusively used to make things that should already be fun addictive.

[-] GalaxyBrain@hexbear.net 13 points 2 years ago

I recall that turn as well. There was always something real suspicious about that term anyway

[-] SSJ2Marx@hexbear.net 51 points 2 years ago

Yeah, you can't just do a toothless peaceful protest, you gotta kidnap your boss if you want them to change their policies!

[-] Tankiedesantski@hexbear.net 25 points 2 years ago

In some places, they go after the shareholders.

[-] SSJ2Marx@hexbear.net 33 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Interesting topic, but this made me laugh

in the West a shareholders' meeting is usually an earnest discussion between the shareholders and the management,

lmao okay natopedia whatever you say

[-] Tankiedesantski@hexbear.net 12 points 2 years ago

Japanese shareholders meeting: "I'm sorry to be impertinent, but I hope that the board will continue to maximize profits by all available means. Thank you all for listening to my humble opinion."

Westoid shareholder meeting: "I pay your salaries God dammit so you better listen when I say that I want you to maximize profits no matter how many babies you have to grind up!"

Japanese and Western companies: The exact same policies and practices

[-] supafuzz@hexbear.net 45 points 2 years ago

imagine still wanting to work for google in this, tyool 2024

google hasn't done anything even interesting nevermind not obviously shitty for what, five years?

[-] EmoThugInMyPhase@hexbear.net 35 points 2 years ago

i don't think anyone cares about what they do. they care about the money and prestige

[-] supafuzz@hexbear.net 34 points 2 years ago

which is why google hasn't done anything interesting in years

say what you will about the valley but this was not the prevailing attitude among computer engineers for most of its history. too many normies and business school freaks got into it

[-] AcidLeaves@hexbear.net 17 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Please don't use 4chan slang you're making our side look bad

And I can guarantee you people here are anything but normal. There's a reason why women in coding jobs have gone from >30% to <20% in a few decades in the Valley

Everybody here are still reactionary incels who could never get laid if they weren't making bank

I wish my co-workers were normal people and business breaks, that would be a substantial upgrade

[-] Evilphd666@hexbear.net 8 points 2 years ago

They've done plenty of interesting in the ways of enshittifyihg their products in more and more spectacular ways.

We developed the most accurate, fastest, amazing sorting algorithim in the history of the world that encompesses the totality of human knowledge, facts, and existence! Now break it!

[-] itappearsthat@hexbear.net 22 points 2 years ago

they released kubernetes to the world which has singlehandedly kept the tech sector from accomplishing anything for like a decade at this point, gotta hand it to them honestly

[-] DefinitelyNotAPhone@hexbear.net 11 points 2 years ago

I won't complain about me making a living off of editing YAML files due to that.

[-] TeddyKila@hexbear.net 8 points 2 years ago

why should I be upset about k8s?

[-] radiofreeval@hexbear.net 18 points 2 years ago

The salary is good, that's how they get talent.

[-] came_apart_at_Kmart@hexbear.net 37 points 2 years ago

i love the framing of a workplace as obviously, necessarily apolitical. as though workplaces are anything but the most intensely political battleground of our fucking lives.

a boss dictates your every move and word so that you can access food, shelter and healthcare: not political!

[-] Awoo@hexbear.net 34 points 2 years ago

Way better framing than I've seen from other corps, chuds will bite on that anti-education line. I wonder who came up with that.

[-] HumanBehaviorByBjork@hexbear.net 33 points 2 years ago

tech anti-intellectuals get way too much credit for their intelligence

[-] ChaosMaterialist@hexbear.net 32 points 2 years ago

Standing between a Silicon Valley company and money is a job's death sentence.

[-] FourteenEyes@hexbear.net 29 points 2 years ago

Quietly but conspicuously dropping "don't be evil" from corporate directives for no reason at all

[-] Evilphd666@hexbear.net 17 points 2 years ago

maybe-later-honey Yeah here we profit off genocide and Skynet is good money so sorry honey, time to grow up and understand empathy is the profit killer.

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