Maui police roadblock untold numbers of people to their agonizing death, saving them from fallen trees. Chief Pelletier also led the botched response to the 2017 Las Vegas shooting (apnews.com)

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https://apnews.com/article/hawaii-fires-timeline-maui-lahaina-road-block-c8522222f6de587bd14b2da0020c40e9

Cause of death: climate change, cops, cars

“So the police were blocking roads, the exit, some of the exit roads out,” he says. “And I’m assuming it’s because there’s been some downed power lines or some downed trees.” Maui Police Chief John Pelletier confirmed that at a news conference two weeks later. "We did not close or forbid people from getting out of Lahaina,” Pelletier said. “If there was a downed power line that was live, we wanted to make sure that you didn’t go over a downed live power line.”

“The gridlock would have left us there when the firestorm came,” said Cuevas-Reyes, 38. “I would have had to tell my children to jump into the ocean as well and be boiled alive by the flames or we would have just died from smoke inhalation and roasted in the car.”

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[-] blobjim@hexbear.net 34 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

HOW THE HELL WAS HE ALSO IN CHARGE AT THE LAS VEGAS SHOOTING HOW HOW HOW. This country is such a cruel joke. Another example of cops failing "up" so they can do bigger crimes at another police deprtment until they make the news. Why the hell was this guy qualified to be a police chief in Maui, he's not from there. It seems like police chiefs basiclaly have to be vetted by the federal government or something in order to be allowed to be a police chief. Cities are constantly hiring them from elsewhere like they're some corporate executive. Because there's only so many thoughroughly vetted ruling class ghouls to select from.

[-] EmotionalSupportLancet@hexbear.net 17 points 1 year ago

My conspiracy sense is tingling. With so many unanswered questions about the Vegas shooting the police chief ending up with a cushy job in Maui just makes everything more sus.

[-] Pointman@hexbear.net 10 points 1 year ago

I mean the conspiracy here is the govt is brainwashing people to think this was caused by direct energy weapons and not climate change, single occupant vehicles, poor city planning, & the US just destroying Hawaii

These people died because there was no organized evacuation.

Pelletier botched a response to something which does warrant a "conspiracy" investigation. We don't know what the fuck Paddock was up to. That was a weird fucking guy with weird connections.

This is just a cop failing up as usual.

[-] EmotionalSupportLancet@hexbear.net 5 points 1 year ago

Is it the government spreading the laser narrative? If we treat Q as an op I could see that, but I’m fairly sure Q is organic hog.

[-] Pointman@hexbear.net 4 points 1 year ago

The question with Q is not whether it's a psyop, but whether it was a psyop at the very beginning, or the feds got a hold of it later. You can go talk to Hotwheels in the Leftypol Dot Org Matrix chat, I think. May have left. He didn't like them.

[-] blobjim@hexbear.net 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Would they kill thst many people just to ban bump stocks? Or maybe it would be more of a "pid to keep quiet" kind of thing?

[-] EmotionalSupportLancet@hexbear.net 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Have you listened to the trueanon episode on it? It has nothing to do with gun control. The guy was almost certainly being used by the feds as some sort of middleman. Look into the plane angle.

[-] Pointman@hexbear.net 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Ngl they take 3 hours to get around to saying they don't have a take. This was an episode where I really lost respect for people who insist Felix is interesting.

They do go over the police response extensively though. I think in light of other cop responses to mass shooters it's less shocking. They're just fucking cowards. Maybe there was a spec ops team in there next to his body firing with an LMG. I don't fucking know.

[-] EmotionalSupportLancet@hexbear.net 5 points 1 year ago

The guy is just so fed adjacent in various ways.

I tend to agree with the episode though: it’s suspicious in myriad ways and even though the public doesn’t/likely won’t ever get the full truth fed involvement is likely.

Felix has coasted for a long time after he popped off about giving Iran a nuke. He used to occasionally have decent foreign policy takes.

[-] Pointman@hexbear.net 3 points 1 year ago

You know, despite myself I now wonder what his take on the potential China-Saudi Arabia nuclear deal will be.

I'm curiously waiting on broader reactions to SA & UAE joining BRICS-I-SEE-AU (I stole this acronym from Zhao Dashuai). Expecting Khomeini derangement syndrome as well.

[-] EmotionalSupportLancet@hexbear.net 3 points 1 year ago

BRICS-I-SEE-AU Australia put on notice lol

I am going to choose optimism today and hope being in BRICS-I-SEE-AU together cuts down on some of the hostility.

[-] Pointman@hexbear.net 12 points 1 year ago

The way we police in the US, it's helpful for cops to be from somewhere else.

[-] SacredExcrement@hexbear.net 11 points 1 year ago

As flames tore through a West Maui neighborhood, car after car of fleeing residents headed for the only paved road out of town in a desperate race for safety.

And car after car was turned back toward the rapidly spreading wildfire by a barricade blocking access to Highway 30.

Some died in their cars, while others tried to run for safety.

During a news conference Tuesday, Maui Police Chief John Pelletier said police officers drove up and down streets, knocking on doors and using loudspeakers to tell people to leave, but he didn’t say exactly where and what time those efforts occurred. The Associated Press has filed public records requests for location reports and other documentation including video and internal communications to clarify the details of the police and fire response, but Maui County has not yet released that information.

ACAB folks, now and forever

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