Denmark, the Netherlands and the US expect to deliver the first of dozens of "Vipers" to Ukraine within months. The jets won't be a game-changer but another significant arrow in the quiver for Kyiv.
How do these compare to Russia's jet fighters?
Also-
Russia suuuuuuucks.
Ehhhhh.
For rocket artillery, Russia also has the Smerch:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BM-30_Smerch
With the appropriate munitions, that can do 200 km.
They're using a range number for the M777 for the Excalibur ammunition, 40 km, so it seems fair to compare it against other long-range munitions.
For tube artillery, Russia has the Pion:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2S7_Pion
With the appropriate ammunition, WP says that can reach 47.5 km.
EDIT: Note, for completeness, that Ukraine also has both of these, and for both of these, accuracy is somewhat-limited.
I wanted to say the same. However GLSDB is being supplied in regular quantities now, so that has some more range. But comparing XR smart shells to normal munitions is just silly indeed.
At this point munition quantities is the issue for Ukraine, and munitions quality is the issue for Russia.
it’s funny they show himars and compare it to the m270. It’s the same missile. The only difference is the launch platform. For some reason people think the f16 will be a game changer. It won’t. Might even be an issue since Ukraine has no experience using them. They require lot of support and better runways.
We will know soon enough. The conga line of C130s will form around Tuesday afternoon.
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