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[-] Eyedust@lemmy.world 43 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Story time.

I learned Debian-based distros back in high school from a college tech class. After leaving school and getting my first job, I built my first computer (after two DOA boards and much gnashing of teeth). I sat happily in my Windows bubble for a long time.

Years later I had a catastrophic failure when trying to get clever and unlocking my system32 folder to do some tinkering. I'd had enough of Windows. Thought Pop! OS looked really nice.

But we sometimes have that one friend. Arch. Every time I talked about my OS or showed him my clean setup, Arch. If I had a problem with packages. Pacman. AUR. Arch.

I was going nuts. Did he care I was running Pop! OS with KDE Plasma using Kubuntu backports to jury rig a later version? No. Arch.

After a long and grueling battle, after slogging through mountains of unsolicited Arch memes in my DMs, after vehemently defending Debian, I will only say this:

I use Arch, btw.

[-] Shady_Shiroe@lemmy.world 15 points 7 months ago

I use the glorious Hannah Montana OS, btw

[-] Nomecks@lemmy.ca 17 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

You mean Miley/Hannah Montana Linux

[-] Shady_Shiroe@lemmy.world 6 points 7 months ago

I(t) came in like a wrecking ball (into my life)

[-] Shareni@programming.dev 14 points 7 months ago

Wait a bit more and you'll go back to Debian when you get tired of failing to boot after an update.

Source: personal experience

[-] FourThirteen@lemmy.world 4 points 7 months ago

This is the answer.

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[-] seaQueue@lemmy.world 9 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

I use Arch, btw.

Serious posting: I got tired of making backports for Debian and Ubuntu. I use Arch BTW.

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[-] octopus_ink@lemmy.ml 37 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

I think we're years past the point where the frequency of memes about people saying "I use arch btw" has exceeded people actually saying "I use arch btw" by a wide margin. At this point I'm just waiting for this one to die.

[-] metaStatic@kbin.social 19 points 7 months ago

I use Arch btw was always a meme , literally no one ever said it unironically.

I use Arch btw

[-] octopus_ink@lemmy.ml 8 points 7 months ago

I use Arch btw was always a meme , literally no one ever said it unironically.

There was definitely a time when many folks regularly mentioned using Arch. It did have some novelty when it was new to newish. I was probably one of them.

[-] someacnt_@lemmy.world 4 points 7 months ago

Oh, sounds similar with Nix nowadays

[-] Shareni@programming.dev 4 points 7 months ago

literally no one ever said it unironically.

Tell me you don't know the origin of the meme without telling me you don't know the origin of the meme.

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[-] lemmyreader@lemmy.ml 27 points 7 months ago

Maybe better to use cross-post next time. Sometimes people do not cross-post and then the same link will appear five times in the time line for the five identical posts they made. With cross-posting it appears only once. I use Arch, btw

[-] Samsy@lemmy.ml 17 points 7 months ago

Controversial opinion: you become a senior, when you let arch behind and use distros like debian.

I don't dislike arch, going step by step through the install process is the best way learning and no matter which distro someone use, the arch wiki should be the first place to visit for instructions or help.

[-] mostlikelyaperson@lemmy.world 18 points 7 months ago

I don’t know, I have had to fix more problems with supposedly “stable” distributions like Debian and co than I ever did with arch.

[-] TimeSquirrel@kbin.social 18 points 7 months ago

Yeah at some point, you want to do work on your computer, not work on your computer.

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[-] Guenther_Amanita@feddit.de 7 points 7 months ago

I disagree (a bit at least).

Debian is just as prone to breaking due to the lack of fallbacks (e.g. Snapper), it just doesn't break as often because it doesn't change as much as Arch.
If you use a minimal/ default install, this won't happen as easily, but as soon as you customise anything, you get problems.
Arch can be reliable too, there are many people who have had the same install for years without breaking.

I would actually recommend Fedora Atomic or other image based distros, e.g. VanillaOS.
They can be more modern, while being way more reliable thanks to atomic updates/ transactions, complete image rollbacks and the reproducibility.
They are a dream to use imo!

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[-] Vuraniute@thelemmy.club 3 points 7 months ago

you let arch behind and use distros like debian.

does using nixos count ;-;

[-] knolord@lemmy.world 10 points 7 months ago

It is, if your priorities are to tinker even more with your computer. (nix configs, etc.) :)

Using non-tech analogy, it is like having a "project car" to tinker with and a "daily driver" to get to and from work, if you are a car enthusiast.

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[-] Norgur@fedia.io 8 points 7 months ago

I said I lt elsewhere already. The maturing "I use arch btw" crowd is steadily migrating to NixOS. In a few years at most .the meme will be "I use nixOS btw".

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[-] Sunny@slrpnk.net 16 points 7 months ago

I genuinely don't hear about people using arch too often anymore.

[-] atlasraven31@lemm.ee 2 points 7 months ago

They are too busy fixing broken dependencies.

[-] FluffyPotato@lemm.ee 2 points 7 months ago

Not in real life but I have yet to not find one in the comments of anything Linux related.

[-] TotalFat@lemmy.world 11 points 7 months ago

My current theory on the whole meme:

  1. Someone in high school debate class is tasked with arguing in favor of Flat Earth theory or moon landings were faked.
  2. Intrigued by the ease with which they manipulate people into believing outlandish concepts, they try talking people into believing more untenable ideas like "grip tape is much better at holding reaper pepper hot sauce on the surface of a dildo than barbed wire."
  3. Person finds that limits exist and tries to come up with something more reasonable -- becomes champion for Arch Linux.
  4. People take them seriously and it takes off..

DISCLAIMER: I have tried neither grip tape and hot sauce covered dildos nor Arch Linux but you get the concept I'm trying to convey I hope.

[-] CarbonatedPastaSauce@lemmy.world 4 points 7 months ago

Reading between the lines here, does that mean you HAVE tried barbed wire hot sauce dildos?

[-] onlinepersona@programming.dev 2 points 7 months ago

Birds Aren't Real, Flying Spaghetti Monster, and probably a few other things started out as jokes and people started taking it seriously. But Arch probably didn't start as joke given how gate-keeperish the linux community was at the time.

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[-] Johanno@feddit.de 8 points 7 months ago
[-] Norgur@fedia.io 7 points 7 months ago

Give it a few years and the I use nixOS memes will replace the Arch ones completely.

[-] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world 8 points 7 months ago

I wonder how much shit I would get if I was to declare Arch the veganism of Linux 🤔

[-] herrcaptain@lemmy.ca 16 points 7 months ago

Do I get bonus points for being vegan and using Arch?

[-] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world 9 points 7 months ago

That depends: are you holier than thou and bigoted about either? If not, then sure!

[-] herrcaptain@lemmy.ca 12 points 7 months ago

Thankfully, no. The only thing I'm evangelical about is the ISO 8601 date standard.

[-] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world 3 points 7 months ago

I'm more into .cue and .bin dates but then again, I'm very old 😁

[-] seaQueue@lemmy.world 7 points 7 months ago

I'd go with cross-fit here personally, or rock climbing

[-] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world 7 points 7 months ago

Eating lentils off a tractor tire halfway up a rock wall?

[-] lemmyreader@lemmy.ml 3 points 7 months ago

down-voted /j

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[-] riodoro1@lemmy.world 7 points 7 months ago

How did you know? I do use arch btw.

[-] sharkfucker420@lemmy.ml 7 points 7 months ago

Migrated to void

[-] recapitated@lemmy.world 7 points 7 months ago

The crow is people making fun of using arch. Becaus the phrase "I use arch btw" is said orders of magnitude more by those people.

[-] Shareni@programming.dev 2 points 7 months ago

Sure it is...

[-] Juice88@lemmy.world 6 points 7 months ago

Still relevant

[-] FMEEE@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 7 months ago

I use Arch BTW

[-] PiratePanPan@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 7 months ago

I use Fedora BTW

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