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Essa Al-Nassr, a member of the Qatari legislative Shura council, spoke on Monday at an Arab League session, received ovation making bigoted accusations against Jews and promising the end of Israel.

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[-] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 25 points 6 months ago

Ok, that is antisemitism. I fully encourage us to weaken ties to Qatar over that

[-] Pilferjinx@lemmy.world 7 points 6 months ago

Faith is fine and I encourage it. Organized religion corrupts. These assholes need to check themselves.

[-] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 4 points 6 months ago

I’m increasingly believing that nothing is worse for the human brain than believing you’re righteous except for power. Organized religion isn’t the root of this but a handy and convenient way to combine the two

[-] nova_ad_vitum@lemmy.ca 4 points 6 months ago

Quatar is famous for its neutrality, even in this conflict. US aid to Israel in part flows through US bases in Quatar, just miles from where Hamas leaders live. I haven't exactly been keeping a close eye on them but I'm wondering what changed to make them say this. It's not like they had any great concern for the plight of the Palestinians before this .

[-] originalucifer@moist.catsweat.com 24 points 6 months ago

haha prophets. what a joke religion is. just a terrible terrible joke on humanity

[-] gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 26 points 6 months ago

Profits? Where?

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 4 points 6 months ago

Here's the part I'm super confused by considering a Muslim is saying this. Muhammad was supposed to be the last prophet of God. He died all the way back in 632 after complaining of a headache.

So I'm pretty sure any prophet deaths they're blaming on the Jews don't involve any Jews that are alive today and maybe this guy should focus on what the IDF is doing rather than this religious bullshit involving Jews as a whole.

[-] gedaliyah@lemmy.world 23 points 6 months ago

From the article:

The accusation of Jews as ‘killers of prophets’ is a well-known antisemitic trope made in several Islamic texts, which is understood by many, including Al-Nassr himself, as a charge against the entire Jewish people valid for eternity.

This allegation is reminiscent and perhaps reflective of the charge of deicide by which Jews were accused in classical Christian texts.

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 7 points 6 months ago

valid for eternity

I'm pretty sure the sun is going to engulf the Earth in 5 billion years. There probably won't be any Jews left by then because humans would have evolved into something else by then anyway.

Maybe Allah should be reconsulted.

[-] ShittyBeatlesFCPres@lemmy.world 6 points 6 months ago

We’ll be lucky to evolve into anything at the rate we’re creating great filters from scratch.

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 2 points 6 months ago

I don't think we're at the point where we're going to wipe out the species entirely. I think it's likely that even a global thermonuclear war would result in enough pockets of survivors for the species to continue evolving (with quite serious selection pressure at that point) even if society as a whole lies in unrecoverable ruin.

My searching for minimum viable population size puts it all over the map, although the general consensus seems to be 50 people. But who knows? The California condor has gone from a low of 22 individuals to over 500 in just a handful of generations.

Anyway, I can certainly see 50 humans on some remote part of the planet surviving such a catastrophe.

Civilization? Maybe not. Maybe those 50 humans would evolve into something less intelligent and less able to achieve the level of technology we are able to achieve. There's no reason selection always has to favor intelligence.

[-] ShittyBeatlesFCPres@lemmy.world 3 points 6 months ago

I agree. I actually think the only things that could legitimately wipe out humanity are cosmic things we have no control over and it’d have to be so significant that there’s little chance of it actually happening. (Until the sun’s red giant phase, anyway.)

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[-] intrepid@lemmy.ca 21 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Islam includes many Jewish and Christian figures among their numerous prophets. (They believe Mohammed to be the last among them). That includes John the Baptist and Jesus himself (and possibly more). Since Jews had a hand in their death, that could be the reason why they make this claim.

While they're partially correct, this antisemitic trope ignores a lot of context and nuances. For example, Jesus himself was a Jew and so were his initial followers. And there are strong reasons to believe that his crucifixion was a vicious threat towards the Jews of Judea. John's story also has similar nuances. Unfortunately, all those contexts are neglected while creating the propaganda narrative of the evil Jew.

[-] NoIWontPickAName@kbin.earth 23 points 6 months ago

Can we all just fucking stop and catch our breath?

This world has gotten in a big hurry to end ever since 2020

[-] sandman@lemmy.ca 11 points 6 months ago

Covid facilitated the greatest transfer of wealth from the masses to the few in history.

They're addicted to that high and want to keep it going as long as possible.

Blame useful idiots more than anyone else.

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[-] Erasmus@lemmy.world 16 points 6 months ago

My imaginary tale is more real than YOUR imaginary tale.

A tale as old as time…

[-] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 3 points 6 months ago

But it’s the same imaginary tale

One just includes the sequels

[-] Buddahriffic@lemmy.world 2 points 6 months ago
[-] mycathas9lives@lemmy.world 9 points 6 months ago

This is a rather strong statement. I'm glad not to participate in that part of the world with any of the people involved. They really are not my cup of tea.

[-] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 8 points 6 months ago

Imagine if they took their anger out on Romans instead since they were the ones who carried out the execution.

[-] drislands@lemmy.world 6 points 6 months ago

Imagine if they didn't blame an entire people for the actions of their corrupt leaders.

[-] Buddahriffic@lemmy.world 4 points 6 months ago

Also the whole thing might have been entirely fabricated.

[-] Jomega@lemmy.world 3 points 6 months ago

Well you see the problem is there aren't any Romans left to scapegoat.

[-] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 4 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Technically there are still Romans of a kind. They're just people who live in Rome, which is just a city not an empire.

[-] psvrh@lemmy.ca 7 points 6 months ago

It's not to excuse this kind of thing, because it's monstrous, but you can draw a line from this rhetoric to Netanyahu's actions.

He's put a target on the backs of the entire Jewish diaspora.

[-] BraveSirZaphod@kbin.social 13 points 6 months ago

That's the infuriating thing about this whole mess that feels impossible to solve.

Rhetoric like this directly radicalizes Israelis and pushes them towards violent escalation, which then radicalizes Palestinians into violence as well, further inspiring more Israeli violence, and on and on the cycle goes.

And then anyone who advocates for any amount of moderation will simultaneously get called a terrorist sympathizer for not wanting to nuke Gaza and a genocide accomplice for not wanting to forcibly remove or kill every Israeli.

[-] Kaput@lemmy.world 6 points 6 months ago

Assholes, assholes everywhere. Islamist assholes, Zionist assholes , christian assholes trying to get the apocalypse going so they can be raptured. Capitalist Media assholes getting clicks from public outrage. And a whole of other asshole I'm not even aware of. We have laws about what kind of killing is acceptable. Those law were negotiated by people with zero chance of being subjected to lawful murder.

[-] Milk_Sheikh@lemm.ee 7 points 6 months ago

Especially given that last year most of the Gulf states had/were in the process of normalizing and publicizing diplomatic ties with Israel. Qatar has always been the odd one out in the Gulf, but the fact that these disgusting comments were lauded speaks to how much damage Netanyahu has done in such a short time.

[-] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 4 points 6 months ago

It’s on purpose.

Nothing creates unity like a shared enemy, and there’s no better shared enemy than Every One That’s Not Us™️.

It’s why a lot of religious groups generate persecution complexes- it keeps people from leaving the fold.

[-] theacharnian@lemmy.ca 4 points 6 months ago

What a vile, sick and disgusting thing to say.

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 2 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

That's not especially helpful, but A for effort I guess?

Edit: Am I being downvoted because I think antisemitism isn't helpful or am I being downvoted because of the "I guess you tried" second part?

[-] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 6 points 6 months ago

I think a band of tankie bots sweeps through about 6 hours after a post and downvotes everyone. It seems to balance out about 12h later.

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 4 points 6 months ago

Could be. I just wish people would explain why they are downvoting. I don't care that six people downvoted me (as of now), I just want to know their reasoning.

[-] deafboy@lemmy.world 2 points 6 months ago

What effort? To make the whole shitshow a bit worse? They had an option to do nothing, and they said this?

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 6 points 6 months ago

Do people really not know that "A for effort" is a phrase that is almost always used in a sarcastic way?

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