HELLDIVERS™ 2 - HELLDIVERS™ 2 Account Linking Update : pcgaming

[-] Bahnd@lemmy.world 68 points 6 months ago

Whelp, it was fun while it lasted... Good job sony.

Apparently this is already a massive problem for people who are in countries that PSN is not avalible in, using a VPN to create an account to link to has resulted in getting banned. Also seeing as most players are already past the Steam refund window, this is utterly unacceptable.

I dont want to blame Arrowhead too much, this reeks of partnership/publisher meddeling. If they made it so that linking account is not required if crossplay is disabled, I would find that acceptable.

[-] PlantJam@lemmy.world 29 points 6 months ago

Note that the refund window is for it to be automatically approved. Beyond that it has to be manually reviewed.

[-] jet@hackertalks.com 6 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

I requested a refund. They said since it's been 2 week they cannot provide a refund at this time.

[-] Paddzr@lemmy.world 12 points 6 months ago

Appeal. Everyone should do it. Force their hand.

[-] jet@hackertalks.com 5 points 6 months ago

I submitted a ticket to AH directly. But if that fails I'll do another one with steam

[-] PlantJam@lemmy.world 3 points 6 months ago

I've heard that steam is approving pretty much all refunds for HD2 now, worth a try to request it again.

[-] jet@hackertalks.com 1 points 6 months ago

I hope so. I've been rejected 4 times now. But I keep trying

[-] uriel238@lemmy.blahaj.zone 20 points 6 months ago

I set Steam to ignore all Playstation products, but I've been meaning to do that for over a year now. It has nothing to do with Helldivers. I don't Sony anymore.

[-] newthrowaway20@lemmy.world 18 points 6 months ago

Anyone know if Ghost of Tsushima is gonna require a PSN account? You know, since they're adding in that whole overlay thing. I always figured it was gonna be optional but now, I'm not so sure.

[-] Stovetop@lemmy.world 19 points 6 months ago

I would assume it will. Lesson learned: even if it doesn't at launch, they could decide to require it at any time.

[-] halcyoncmdr@lemmy.world 8 points 6 months ago

Devil's advocate...

For Helldivers specifically here, the PSN requirement was listed on the Steam page at launch. It wasn't enforced, but it was disclosed.

Not saying I agree, it's a shitty move that definitely seems like it's being forced by Sony who couldn't care any less about publicity. But this requirement was already there for anyone that bothered to read the store page, even if it wasn't enforced at the time.

[-] nman90@lemmy.world 12 points 6 months ago

If that's the case, then the game should not have been sold to those in countries that don't have access to psn.

[-] halcyoncmdr@lemmy.world 3 points 6 months ago

No argument from me there. Especially since they're saying the only reason it wasn't required was some sort of technical issue at launch.

[-] ColeSloth@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 6 months ago

Do we actually know if it was? I mean, I know people from those countries bought it, but many of them use vpns to buy things they want to either pay less, or get them at all.

So for example, was it for sale in Egypt?

[-] prograhammingdev@lemmy.prograhamming.com 5 points 6 months ago

According to their Twitter account it's only required for online legends access. Single player requires no account

[-] inclementimmigrant@lemmy.world 2 points 6 months ago

Account required of you want the multiplayer aspect, which is why I will not buy it since that's the only reason I want to buy and play it since I've already finished it on the PS4 with a physical copy.

[-] CosmicCleric@lemmy.world 5 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Account linking plays a critical role in protecting our players

Could someone elaborate on this? How does linking protect players?

Edit: Found this video about the subject that seems to describe the situation well. (I am not affiliated with that video/content creator.)

~Anti~ ~Commercial-AI~ ~license~ ~(CC~ ~BY-NC-SA~ ~4.0)~

[-] all-knight-party@kbin.run 29 points 6 months ago

The post says this: "This is our main way to protect players from griefing and abuse by enabling the banning of players that engage in that type of behaviour. It also allows those players that have been banned the right to appeal."

I find that of dubious justification, but that's their explanation.

[-] inclementimmigrant@lemmy.world 23 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Yeah, I also find it to be bullshit since steam already has a way to ban and a appeals process they can follow.

Nah, this is just corporate meddling to get more data to mine and sell and let it be stolen when Sony inevitably allows another data breach.

[-] CosmicCleric@lemmy.world 4 points 6 months ago

Sounds familiar to the reasoning they gave for having root level cheat detection in their game.

~Anti~ ~Commercial-AI~ ~license~ ~(CC~ ~BY-NC-SA~ ~4.0)~

[-] Godric@lemmy.world 20 points 6 months ago

It lets players have their data leaked in one of Sony's biweekly data breaches

[-] qwertyqwertyqwerty@lemmy.one 9 points 6 months ago

Account linking plays a critical role in protecting our player *'s information from getting sold without them getting a piece of the pie

*fixed

[+] ColeSloth@discuss.tchncs.de -9 points 6 months ago

What info are you giving Sony? Your play time and voice chat while playing? The game always said psn account required...

[-] Stern@lemmy.world 9 points 6 months ago

What info are you giving Sony?

More then I want to.

The game always said psn account required

If folks were required to log in day one we wouldn't be having any discussion. Instead its months post release they're putting that requirement in place, so clearly a PSN account isn't that important. Lots of folks feel like its a bait and switch.

[-] ColeSloth@discuss.tchncs.de -5 points 6 months ago

The requirement was always there.

[-] Stern@lemmy.world 7 points 6 months ago

I reiterate: If folks were required to log in day one we wouldn’t be having any discussion. They were not required to log in day one.

[-] ColeSloth@discuss.tchncs.de -2 points 6 months ago

True, but a loved game from a liked company said they had to hold off on the requirement for issues it was having. They never removed the requirement from the purchase page and the game was published by Sony, so I really don't know what anyone expected.

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