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Turkey has halted all trade with Israel, citing the “worsening humanitarian tragedy” in the Palestinian territories, which prompted strong criticism from the Israeli foreign minister.

“Export and import transactions related to Israel have been stopped, covering all products,” Turkey’s trade ministry said late on Thursday.

“Turkey will strictly and decisively implement these new measures until the Israeli government allows an uninterrupted and sufficient flow of humanitarian aid to Gaza.”

Israel’s foreign minister, Israel Katz, accused Turkey’s president, Recep Tayyip Erdoğan, of acting like a “dictator” after the restrictions were first reported.

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[-] djsoren19@yiffit.net 73 points 6 months ago

Gd, when even fucking Erdogan thinks you're going too far. I know they're a usually antagonistic force to the West, but they are a real player in the region, so this is still good pressure on Israel. Even if it happens to be opportunistic.

[-] protist@mander.xyz 29 points 6 months ago

Turkey/Erdogan aligns with the West most of the time. He's antagonistic sometimes, and that's what makes headlines so is the image most people have developed of him. He's been staunchly pro-Palestine since he took office in 2003, and has had pretty poor relations with Israel for almost the entire last 20 years, so this is not surprising

[-] sarcasticsunrise@lemmy.world 52 points 6 months ago

Damn, rare W from Erdogan here

[-] Cryophilia@lemmy.world 16 points 6 months ago

It's coincidental.

[-] Fedizen@lemmy.world 43 points 6 months ago

I can't believe joe brandon and snoozin trump are being outflanked on the left by a right wing dictator. Broken clock or something I guess.

[-] istanbullu@lemmy.ml 29 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Erdoğan resisted this as long as possible. But the public opinion in Turkey is so strongly anti-genocide right now that he was forced into this by the opposition.

Erdoğan loves to talk tough on Israel, but normally he doesn't actually follow up.

[-] fritobugger2017@lemmy.world 28 points 6 months ago

Turkey is strongly anti-genocide as long as it doesn't involve Kurds or Armenians, then they are completely pro-genocide.

[-] raspberriesareyummy@lemmy.world 21 points 6 months ago

*the Turkish nationalists.

There's millions of lovely and non-genocidal people in Turkey. Source: learning Turkish since 2015 and travel there a lot

[-] Tryptaminev@lemm.ee 19 points 6 months ago

Fun fact. Azerbaijan and Israel are allies. Israel receives most of its Oil and Gas from Azerbaijan, Israeli drones helped murder Armenians in the last war and Israel has a deal going on with the azerbaijani oil and gas company to developed the Gas fields they want to steal from the Palestinians at the coast of Gaza.

So if you want to be against genocide against Armenians it is a good way to go about being against supporting Israel.

[-] SuddenDownpour@sh.itjust.works 13 points 6 months ago

Overwhelmingly Muslim country with a head of government who has reinforced their Muslim identity to safeguard his own power. This doesn't have as much to do with leftism or humanitarism as it has to do with being somewhat coherent with their declared in-group, lest their own base turns against them. I think the move is good though, even if I don't trust their reasons.

[-] Cethin@lemmy.zip 6 points 6 months ago

While they do make it sound good, I wouldn't be sure this is coming from a leftist ideal. More than likely this is about power, because it's always about power (not just for Turkey, but for every nation). There's something Turkey gains by doing this. I don't really know what, but I can promise you it's there.

[-] FiniteBanjo@lemmy.today 4 points 6 months ago

Yeah I'm also having trouble finding his angle. Maybe Turkey is finally wisening up to Russian Aggression after all this time and wants the US focus to shift off of the Israeli conflict and onto the Ukraine front?

Maybe they want to get back to a point where they can purchase new Jets again, lol. They got banned from the program because they were also buying Russian fighters at the time.

[-] Welt@lazysoci.al 4 points 6 months ago

I suspect it's as ideological as Israel's actions against Palestinians unfortunately.

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[-] snownyte@kbin.social 38 points 6 months ago

This is saying a lot, knowing Turkey.

[-] Chozo@fedia.io 37 points 6 months ago

"Humanitarian tragedy"

Just say "genocide", cowards.

[-] distantsounds@lemmy.world 52 points 6 months ago

Ask an Armenian why Erdogan chooses those words

[-] Kalkaline@leminal.space 23 points 6 months ago

Ooh pick me, pick me, I'm American, but my great grandfather was Armenian. Want to know why he came to America suddenly?

[-] distantsounds@lemmy.world 14 points 6 months ago

It’s terrible. If it wasn’t for one of my best friends being Armenian, I most likely wouldn’t know. They didn’t teach that in any school I attended (thru college)

[-] Kalkaline@leminal.space 15 points 6 months ago

My great grandfather survived, my grandpa went on to have 7 kids and 5 of them went on to have kids (that we know of). We made the best of it. I'm going to teach my daughter about it when she's old enough to understand. Just do good in the world and tell not only our story, but all the other ones too.

[-] png@discuss.tchncs.de 12 points 6 months ago

the genocide of the Armenians is not taught about in German schools because it regularly resulted in attacks on teachers from turkish parents if teachers so much as spoke about it to their students.

[-] Skates@feddit.nl 8 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Wtf? Why not just imprison the pro-genocide fucks? Why limit education instead?

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[-] JustAnotherRando@lemmy.world 6 points 6 months ago

I learned about the Armenian genocide as well as the ongoing struggles of the Armenian people because of System of a Down. Pretty sure if it wasn't for that band, I would have never heard about it.

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[-] Zehzin@lemmy.world 21 points 6 months ago

If you trick him into saying that word he gets banished to his dimension

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[-] MonkCanatella@sh.itjust.works 36 points 6 months ago

Let’s make no mistake, this dude isn’t doing this out of some semblance of morals. Dudes an authoritarian dictator

[-] istanbullu@lemmy.ml 18 points 6 months ago

He was forced into doing this by the opposition. The opposition won a major election against Erdo in March, and Israel was a major point he got hit on.

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[-] Andromxda@lemmy.dbzer0.com 28 points 6 months ago

A right-wing dictator fighting another right-wing dictator. Kinda funny

[-] Agent641@lemmy.world 18 points 6 months ago

TFW someone stands up to Israel but its fucking Erdogan

[-] DragonTypeWyvern@literature.cafe 8 points 6 months ago

Eh, that's the thing with nationalism. You can have allies of convenience but conflict is inevitable.

[-] Andromxda@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 6 months ago

That's why Nationalism is dumb as hell

[-] gmtom@lemmy.world 23 points 6 months ago

Willing to bet real money that the US has a stronger reaction to Turkey doing this than to Israel actually doing genocide.

[-] Aceticon@lemmy.world 20 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Thanks to the complexities or modern geopolitics and culture, as well as pressure from Turkish public opinion, just this time Erdoğan is on the right side of History.

[-] xc2215x@lemmy.world 20 points 6 months ago
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[-] supangle@lemmy.wtf 9 points 6 months ago

he would never do that, if the second biggest islamic party, known as yeniden refah partisi, didn't say so. some ak parti voters, voted to yeniden refah partisi, just because they didn't want this to continue. fatih erbakan, who is in charge of that party, probably will cause more problems in the future for erdogan

[-] Linkerbaan@lemmy.world 4 points 6 months ago

Erdogan stopped wagging his ZIonist tail real quick after his massive losses in the recent election

[-] supangle@lemmy.wtf 6 points 6 months ago

what's fucking funny is that, turkish journalists had already reported his transactions to israel way before the election, it didn't made it to news, even opposition parties didn't talked about it.

[-] dataprolet@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 6 months ago

Turkey is invading Rojava/Kurdistan right now. What a fucking double standard.

[-] istanbullu@lemmy.ml 4 points 6 months ago
[-] arlaerion@lemmy.ml 8 points 6 months ago

Kurds deserve their own state as much as plaestinians do. But colonial nations back in the past fucked up.

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[-] istanbullu@lemmy.ml 7 points 6 months ago

Finally, it took him long enough.

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