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[-] T34_69@hexbear.net 50 points 5 months ago

Imperial Russia from the Tzar times and the Soviet empire times

: absolutely-safe-capsule

Need a rolling your eyes emoji

[-] edge@hexbear.net 23 points 5 months ago
[-] yogthos@lemmygrad.ml 47 points 5 months ago

At the start of the war the narrative was that Ukraine could win, and that was worth all the sacrifice, but now even the west admits that Ukraine is going to lose. So, Borrell is openly admitting here that the west is destroying Ukraine for their own interests as opposed to helping people of Ukraine.

[-] Iwishiwasntthisway@hexbear.net 33 points 5 months ago

How much of that "aid" is basically just buying up the parts they plan to keep from Russia after negotiations and plunging it into serfdom.

[-] EmoThugInMyPhase@hexbear.net 29 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

I wonder how much of the soil is seeped with uranium and other munition chemicals lol. Blackrock will sell radioactive wheat back to Ukrainians.

It’s bizarre seeing everyone on here horrified at the prospect of depleted uranium being used and mass privatization because we know Ukrainians will continue living there after the war, and we’re branded as evil fascist tankies. But liberals who supposedly care about Ukrainians keep hyping up and defending chemical warfare and privatization by foreign corporations.

[-] HakFoo@lemmy.sdf.org 6 points 5 months ago

The sad thing is that this is basically a war for symbols.

If they just conceded the territory, how much would the locals' lives change? One sketchy government replaced by another, but OMG new flag and banknotes! A slightly different language in official documents! Clearly that's an ACTUAL genocide, not like we have any reference to what that would look like.

If we said "hundreds of thousands had to die for Coke over Pepsi" it would be no less absurd than this level of death for "Blue and Yellow Brand Corruption vs Tricolour Brand Corruption."

We could have solved this conflict in 2022 by figuring in terms of "the cheapest, least bloody way to make Putin feel like a winner" but the West approached it with all the nuanced logic of a primary school teacher saying "The bully must be punished and denied for being a bully" no matter the cost.

[-] ksynwa@lemmygrad.ml 11 points 5 months ago

One sketchy government replaced by another

They were being shelled by their current sketchy government for about a decade

[-] Tunnelvision@hexbear.net 8 points 5 months ago

Putin is not a different brand of corruption here he’s the only rational actor in this entire conflict. Russia has made it entirely clear to the west since the 90’s that Ukraine was a redline. The west should have listened. Take your ignorance somewhere else.

[-] GrouchyGrouse@hexbear.net 30 points 5 months ago

"War to the last Ukrainian" the west has decided that the people of Ukraine are expendable. A noble sacrifice. Boris Johnson is gonna repel down from the rafters and say something stupid about how it's okay to make a "grand bargain" with other people's lives.

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