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submitted 6 months ago by Vincent@feddit.nl to c/linux@lemmy.ml

In this episode of Zed Decoded, Thorsten talks to Mikayla, who's been leading the effort to Zed working on Linux, about the Zed's Linux version and how it's taking shape

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[-] azvasKvklenko@sh.itjust.works 16 points 6 months ago

I feel like they’ve got couple of things wrong or they base of outdated information.

The packaging, yeah it’s still a mess if you absolutely have to put it in a native system package, but building something like Flatpak would generally be better. Or just build binaries against some common runtime like Ubuntu LTS and other distros will figure out, there’s really not much more here. It really sounds like someone wrote it in 2000’s about all distros being completely different and it’s expected to fall apart if you attempt to run it on say Fedora. They’re really not that different today. Also, universal package formats exist.

They completely skip XDG desktop portals that can provide at least huge chunk of functionality they need. There’s really no need to talk to GTK or QT directly. simply require portals and use its function for choosing file or directory. That’s it, you’ve got native file picker that also works in sandboxes.

[-] Vincent@feddit.nl 5 points 6 months ago

They're showing the native file picker which using XDG desktop portals.

I'm also fairly sure that the "(but of course there are competing standards)" line referred to Flatpak vs. Snap (vs. AppImage).

[-] mrashley@lemmy.ca 14 points 6 months ago
[-] devfuuu@lemmy.world 13 points 6 months ago

Some random one that appeared out of nowhere for mac only, seems the be from some company and because of that people are hyping the shit out of it.

Many places that never mentioned the other more known and editors like helix now suddenly are mentioning this one. It smells as a huge ad/marketing campaign. Not sure what the plans are for monetisation and the business plan.

[-] Dark_Arc@lemmy.world 2 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

It's a lot more than a random text editor.

It's a text editor from (at least some of) the people that made Atom at GitHub (with the explicit premise of learning from Atom/building a faster, better, Atom).

The business plan is to sell collaboration features (e.g., remote pair programming).

[-] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml 11 points 6 months ago
[-] palordrolap@kbin.social 16 points 6 months ago

So, it's trying to replace Emacs?

[-] floofloof@lemmy.ca 15 points 6 months ago

Emacs is more of a religion.

[-] exu@feditown.com 7 points 6 months ago

I don't think Zed has an email client and window manager built-in.

[-] aksdb@lemmy.world 6 points 6 months ago
[-] GissaMittJobb@lemmy.ml 4 points 6 months ago
[-] coolmojo@lemmy.world 4 points 6 months ago
[-] floofloof@lemmy.ca 7 points 6 months ago

Thank goodness these things aren't confusingly named.

[-] Zak@lemmy.world 3 points 6 months ago

Yes, a code-oriented one meant to be very fast and responsive. It's pre-alpha on Linux but compiles without any fuss for me. I haven't spent much time with it, but the only bug I've seen so far is an uncommanded theme change when switching between files.

[-] taanegl@beehaw.org 8 points 6 months ago

I've been waiting for this. Been using Kate on Windows and Linux, which is great, but running Zed is just so lightweight. It's like a truly open source Sublime Text.

[-] kate@lemmy.uhhoh.com 17 points 6 months ago
[-] palordrolap@kbin.social 5 points 6 months ago

A wild username reference appears!

There's an editor called Kate. It's probably not named after you, but if you're young enough and the person who named you was into tech, you might be named after it.

[-] kate@lemmy.uhhoh.com 5 points 6 months ago

I named myself but im into tech does that count

[-] palordrolap@kbin.social 4 points 6 months ago

named myself

Programmer error: I totally missed a bunch of edge cases there. Cases 32 to 35 for sure

Buuut I'm guessing you didn't name yourself after the editor.

[-] kate@lemmy.uhhoh.com 1 points 6 months ago

GOOD article

[-] GottaHaveFaith@kbin.social 6 points 6 months ago

Compiled it yesterday on endeavourOS, it's just 3 or 4 commands so give it a try if you're interested. Still have to use it for coding but I set it as default for some source files and it does immediately open on click, with syntax highlight (I was searching for something like this)

[-] Vincent@feddit.nl 1 points 6 months ago

Well, you got me to give it a try. The process seemed simple enough, but unfortunately my laptop hangs when I run cargo run --release, so looks like no Zed for me for a while (until someone builds a Flatpak).

[-] nixfreak@sopuli.xyz 5 points 6 months ago

I built it on Linux , Arch … takes forever because of rust and the 1000’s of depends. Works though.

[-] iiGxC@slrpnk.net 4 points 6 months ago

Does zed have helix keybindings?

[-] syd@lemy.lol 2 points 6 months ago

If Zed goes wrong, can we just fork it? If yes, I’d like to use it.

[-] Vincent@feddit.nl 6 points 6 months ago

It's open source, so theoretically, yes.

[-] syd@lemy.lol 3 points 6 months ago

The CLA stuff made me suspicious but probably you’re right.

[-] Vincent@feddit.nl 2 points 6 months ago

If they're using a CLA, that would only be used if you want them to merge your code into their codebase. If you're running a fork, that shouldn't be a problem.

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