The show will deliver.
The girl grew up in a vault under propaganda.
The brotherhood is not the fallout 3/4 branch.
Lucy wants to make the world better. Truly deeply, but has no understanding of the world or what better means.
Good, that's what I was hoping (that it's going to do some growth and these characters are going to have to examine the propaganda they've been raised on)
The brotherhood actually are partly the east coast branch. The airship is the one from 4.
Fallout 4 says that Maxson reunited both east and west faction (no comment on semi-canon Midwest group from Tactics) to create the new fascist BoS in that game. Which is what is in the show.
i read the vault people more as smiling hitlerjugend than libs, all that talk about breeding & coming colonization of the surface
yeah except in typical corporate brained bethesda manner they made the vault dwellers completely multi-ethnic, losing any resonance the whole thing might have to anything actually happening in the real world. Same thing as in Starfield where you have a faction of cowboy-larping-muh-taxes-libertarian-dudebros who are just as ethnically diverse as the san-francisco-liberal faction on the other side of the galaxy.
losing any resonance the whole thing might have to anything actually happening in the real world
just because it doesn't replicate the exact racial dynamics of historical and contemporary colonization doesn't mean it doesn't have anything to say about it
that's like saying district 9 doesn't have anything to say about apartheid because it's being used against aliens
Lucy gets better at the end. Or at least starts to lol.
I know Maximus is stuck in an evil cult but he's cute
He also displays sociopathic tendencies
it's a character arc thing. honestly i think there's some great character work throughout the season
Oh thank god.
You never know these days whether an adaptation of satire understands the satire or is playing it straight
I was really happy with how the show turned out and the direction it took. I felt it really delivered, so don't be too worried. I had some similar concerns especially regarding the Brotherhood of Steel before watching, but the show gets that they're not good guys.
I thought theyvreally nailed it as an adaptation of the setting. My favorite thing about Fallout is that its not speculative fiction. Its not about a possible future, its about what people in the height of the Atomic Age thought the future would be. There's this massive contridiction in that period where on the one hand you have the height of Americana - that trademark psychotic optimism - and on the other hand the fear of nuclear annihilation. Fallout explores that contridiction - or rather resolves it by recognizing that the US is fascist. The show, i felt, got that and delievered.
The Vault storyline is the best imo.
I've watched the whole show and I think Lucy's character works. She's ignorant and she gets a few big doses of reality along the way -- a good vault dweller in the tradition of the Vault Dweller from Fallout 1 or the Lone Wanderer from Fallout 3.
I hated the first few episodes, started to like it in the second half, and then hated the last episode. Imo most of the interesting stuff happens either in flashbacks or is implied off-screen. She becomes a bit more of a realist but still stays a "good" person.
As an aside I find the weird way it engages in fanservice intriguing. Like, yeah, look at all the power armor and vertibirds, or some guy has a 10mm pistol, oooh stimpaks. But it doesn't go full out. Ghoul man has a weird subsonic revolver thing that's not in any games that I remember. The Boneyard, The Hub, Vault City? Never heard of 'em.
The Boneyard, The Hub, Vault City? Never heard of 'em.
Neither have the writers of this show. You'd be kidding yourself if you thought they used anything pre-Fallout 3 for reference for this show.
The game takes place only around LA. The Shady Sands depicted should have been the Boneyard (the only way it makes sense if they moved the government from the location from 2 and took the name with it). The hub was more north but should be mentioned as it was still big. Vault city is much further away. It’s even above San Francisco (another settlement) in latitude which is 600km from LA by road.
Imo they really just didn't care about scale or where things were at all. There's a lot of wandering around but not a lot of things because they'd rather not worry about it.
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Also Kyle Mclachlan makes it to New Vegas in 30 seconds (sort of).
She goes through a lot in eight episodes and has abandoned her Vault-Tec brand naivete by the end for very good reasons
If you look at the show on its own it's totally fine entertainment (way better than anything westworld certainly), but as an adaptation of a videogame series called Fallout it takes out everything that might make an adaptation of that series interesting while also making the source material much less interesting and resonant in the process. I might do a longer write-down at some point if I feel like it, but it's 100 percent "Bethesda™s Fallout: Skyrim with Guns Edition" taking over the series and its lore. There is some stuff that is good and works (the brotherhood guy is exactly the type of facist dudebro the brotherhood would create) but also so much of it just feels like corporate-brained nonsense.
the brotherhood guy is exactly the type of facist dudebro the brotherhood would create
True, but that just makes him a weirder choice, because he brings essentially nothing to the story - his character development has been mostly him falling for Lucy, therefore coincidentally doing Good Thing, and looking glum when asked "what if the Brotherhood... is the Brother-no-good?" because his character is written as ignorant and uncommunicative, leaving him incapable of expressing reasons or arguments for his actions (outside of the excellent acting - his expressions as he relishes his newfound power were perfect).
...wait, he's just the first ten minutes of Finn from Star Wars dragged out over a season.
My head canon is that anything todd howard touches is not canon, and because feminism ruined gaming i literally can't enjoy anything without seething over the treatment of women within the text.
have fun :)
I like feminism
My head canon is that anything todd howard touches is not canon,
This but unironically!
the main girl is really Libby about Vault-Tec "Um actually you're technically stealing Vault-Tec property which is wrong"
Haven't watched the show and probably won't, but pretty realistic that the "Umm, you're costing the company money by pirating" dorks would persist even through an apocalypse.
I'm watching it today this is what I saw popped up that convinced me it has some substance to try jt.
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