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Canada boasts the 9th largest economy, pristine environmental standards, a robust legal framework, universal healthcare, world class education, and numerous ...

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[-] danielquinn@lemmy.ca 35 points 6 months ago

What the fuck is with this immigrant blaming? We're supposed to be better than this.

[-] Bo7a@lemmy.ca 24 points 6 months ago

We are.

This idiot, however...

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[-] BlameThePeacock@lemmy.ca 28 points 6 months ago

I live in Canada, and I want to live in Canada.

Therefore the title is clearly wrong.

[-] pbjamm@beehaw.org 10 points 6 months ago

I live in Canada by choice and think it was a good one for my family. This clown can take a shit in his hat.

[-] isVeryLoud@lemmy.ca 5 points 6 months ago

You're no one, and so am I

[-] SatansMaggotyCumFart@lemmy.world 26 points 6 months ago

Housing prices are through the roof but nobody wants to live here?

Did Justin Trudeau just take them all hostage or something?

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[-] TH1NKTHRICE@lemmy.ca 14 points 6 months ago

I see no citations in the video description and I’m not too interested in listening to their argument if they can’t provide those citations up front. The only measure they seem to be appealing to in order to support their claim that “no one wants to live in Canada” is that Canada has lowered in happiness index. But, by that measure Canada is 15th in the world and USA is 23rd. So, if that’s the main reason to think people don’t want to live in Canada, then people really don’t want to live in the USA. On its face, that strikes me as exceptionally untrue.

[-] Kalcifer@sh.itjust.works 0 points 6 months ago

I see no citations in the video description and I’m not too interested in listening to their argument if they can’t provide those citations up front.

Yeah, I agree that this is annoying, but, to be fair to the video, there are citiations within the video itself in the bottom right corner. I have no proof if they are provided for every claim, however.

The only measure they seem to be appealing to in order to support their claim that “no one wants to live in Canada” is that Canada has lowered in happiness index.

Aha, I would be very hesitant to justify clickbait, but, that being said, did the creator refer to that thesis within the video itself (I'm not disagreeing with you, necessarily — I could simply have missed something in the video)? One other claim that may be in line with that thesis is at 12:38 when they mention that, each year, Canada loses 0.7% (in the video, they misquote this figure as 7%, but, to be fair, the document that they were citing wrote the value as ".7%" which, arguably, could be easily misread) of its population to brain drain.

[-] TH1NKTHRICE@lemmy.ca 5 points 6 months ago

Now I’m even less likely to watch the video. Panned over to 12:38. That is a pretty egregious error. Either they are incompetent and their opinions aren’t too valuable, or intentionally trying to mislead the now over 1.4million people who have watched that video. This seems like they tried to cherry pick a stat that bodes in favour of their argument and biffed it. Lots of people are still immigrating to Canada, so definitely far more than “no one” wants to live in Canada. https://www.statista.com/topics/2917/immigration-in-canada/

[-] villasv@lemmy.ca 10 points 6 months ago

I forced myself to watch this garbage because I think it's important to know the talking points of the opposition. I've gathered the worst moments - spoiler, it's the whole video.

That dream has faded

The Canadian dream has become a nightmare

This dream has become a fantasy

It is nearly impossible to buy a home in Canada

Who wants to spend 2 million dollars on a home like this? When you can get a mansion in Austin for the same amount?

Each application for an apartment is met with hundreds of competing applications

Rents continue to rise uncontrollably and will do so for years to come

All of this is compounded by the inability of the government to help

Many would argue [dumb shit]

Citizens who owns homes are often against development as it would lower the value of the properties

A part of the reason taxes and red tape continues to increase is the government is growing faster than the population.

The final nail for housing affordability? Foreign investment.

Money laundering is just as easy as ever

Canadians spend more on gas than any other G7 country [ and the whole section on carbon tax is so disingenuous ]

In most contries, such a deal would most likely be stopped or delayed

To startup a bank is nearly impossible in Canada

The US has low levels of market concentration [lmao]

7% of Canadians go out of the border

The US is much more dynamic

The way the video ends on a hopeful note for Poilievre winning, this is obviously propaganda.

[-] anachronist@midwest.social 7 points 6 months ago

Interesting how most of the points about how "nobody wants to live here" boil down to the housing crisis.

It's a bit like that old joke about the trendy restaurant: "Nobody goes there anymore, it's too crowded!"

[-] villasv@lemmy.ca 3 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Lmao yes, and the rest of the video is "big corporations and foreign investors are screwing us over", then hints at electing the party most likely to cater to the wishes of those with big pockets.

[-] Kichae@lemmy.ca 5 points 6 months ago

Ah, so it's "things have gotten worse (unstated: because government has abandoned social responsibility), so I hope the guy who explicitly shits on the government having any social responsibility wins"

[-] villasv@lemmy.ca 3 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

unstated: because government has abandoned social responsibility

Oh that is very much stated

so I hope the guy who explicitly shits on the government having any social responsibility wins

100% that's the tone of the video, cognitive dissonance to the max. It's amazing how immediately following the talking point about red tape and government intervention causing high prices on everything, they pivot to the case that the government should have stopped Rogers and Shaw merger.

[-] lobut@lemmy.ca 4 points 6 months ago

Urgh, it makes me wonder why people do videos like this and think that Poilievre is going to be able to "fix" all this.

Then again, yeah, if it's propaganda it's just about sowing doubt.

[-] villasv@lemmy.ca 5 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

why people do videos like this and think that Poilievre is going to be able to “fix” all this.

Poilievre doesn't have to come with solutions. If you look at the wave of right-wing election winners across the globe since the 10's, the one thing in common is that they tune the voters into "things can't keep going on this direction!" mode, and by presenting themselves as the ones bringing change, they funnel all the misguided fears and hopes.

In fact, I was surprised this video even got to explicitly advocate for the "smaller government" bullshit, because that's veering into solutionizing a bit. But then again, it's the oldest conservative talking point after trampling minorities so the audience will eat it like hot cake.

if it’s propaganda it’s just about sowing doubt.

100%, the whole video screams anti-Trudeau propaganda

[-] MapleEngineer@lemmy.ca 8 points 6 months ago
[-] lautan@lemmy.ca 0 points 6 months ago

I don't like the title but I thought it made some decent points for discussion.

[-] MapleEngineer@lemmy.ca 2 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

It was 7 minutes of pissing and moaning and ignored the reality that things have gotten worse everywhere. A friend from Florida complained in a chat last night that her weekly groceries have gone from USD$100 to USD$180. Despite the problems Canada is still one of the top five best places in the world to live and having travelled to many places around the world I can tell you that I would never consider living anywhere else.

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[-] tiredofsametab@kbin.run 2 points 6 months ago

Wife: cold/snow and to a lesser degree, level of English (she has no French) and requiring a car/license in a lot of places. Me: cold but also housing prices, and watching various Canadian systems trying at various levels to imitate shitty American ones.

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