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[-] psvrh@lemmy.ca 64 points 6 months ago

This should tell you what absolute garbage most American administrations were for the working class.

FDR was the last president who was really afraid of Marxism at home, while Nixon was probably the last president even slightly afraid of the people.

[-] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world -1 points 6 months ago

FDR was the last president who was really afraid of Marxism at home

So in order to get actual progressive change, we need the looming threat of Marxism?

[-] psvrh@lemmy.ca 9 points 6 months ago

Yes.

You aren't going to get meaningful progressive change by just asking for it, and certainly not by hoping for it. The powerful need to be afraid that a worse alternative awaits them before they'll acquiesce to sharing what they have.

"Nobody in the world, nobody in history, has ever gotten their freedom by appealing to the moral sense of the people who were oppressing them.” ― Assata Shakur

[-] TheDemonBuer@lemmy.world 21 points 6 months ago

I give the Democrats a really hard time (mainly because I have much higher expectations for them, and so I hold them to a much higher standard than the Republicans), but I can't deny that Democrats, generally, listen to experts and follow their guidance much more than Republicans. I would even say the Democratic party is somewhat of a technocratic party, for better or worse. It is in this light that the apparent "flip flop" regarding unions should be seen. Both parties became anti-union during the neoliberal era because economists were largely anti-union. Their models or formulas were telling them that unions were bad, so that became the orthodox position of mainstream economics, and Democrats trusted in their expertise. Now, many mainstream economists have decided that unions are good, actually, and so Democrats have once again followed the experts. I'm not sure what changed in the economists' models or formulas that made them rethink their position on unions, but then economics has always been a bit of a mess.

[-] xc2215x@lemmy.world 12 points 6 months ago

That says a lot and not in a good way.

[-] antidote101@lemmy.world 4 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)
[-] frezik@midwest.social 1 points 6 months ago

Grading on a curve, here.

[-] RizzRustbolt@lemmy.world 0 points 6 months ago

They mispelled Julie Su.

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