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Instructions: There are 72 objects on the table that one can use on me as desired.

Performance: I am the object. During this period I take full responsibility.

Duration: 6 hours (8pm–2am.) Studio Morra, Naples

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[-] Lmaydev@programming.dev 272 points 1 year ago

As Abramović described it later: "What I learned was that ... if you leave it up to the audience, they can kill you ... I felt really violated: they cut up my clothes, stuck rose thorns in my stomach, one person aimed the gun at my head, and another took it away. It created an aggressive atmosphere. After exactly 6 hours, as planned, I stood up and started walking toward the audience. Everyone ran away, to escape an actual confrontation."

I swear so many people are actual psychopaths and just good at hiding it.

[-] Shialac@lemmy.world 114 points 1 year ago

A lot of people aren't even good at hiding it, their traits are just seen as virtues in our modern capitalist society

[-] Lmaydev@programming.dev 44 points 1 year ago

Couldn't agree more. Lack of empathy seems to be a requirement to get to the top.

[-] Franzia@lemmy.blahaj.zone 13 points 1 year ago

The idea that you can climb at all is a myth. The psychopaths start at the top and stay there.

[-] prole@sh.itjust.works 58 points 1 year ago

"After exactly 6 hours, as planned, I stood up and started walking toward the audience. Everyone ran away, to escape an actual confrontation."

Sounds like the Internet in a nutshell

[-] cactusupyourbutt@lemmy.world 50 points 1 year ago

what always stand out to me every time I come across this story is the person who took the gun away

[-] Lmaydev@programming.dev 31 points 1 year ago

Yeah it seemed the audience divided into attackers and protectors.

Genuinely a very interesting story.

[-] Star@lemmy.blahaj.zone 11 points 1 year ago

I think it really proves the act as art to me. Feels like a definite statement, intentional or not

[-] Duamerthrax@lemmy.world 39 points 1 year ago

What would you even do? If I saw this as an advertised event, I wouldn't go. Neither participating or spectating sounds very interesting. Only psychopaths are going to show up.

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[-] IWantToFuckSpez@kbin.social 33 points 1 year ago

The authorities should recreate this act to use as a honeypot to identify all the psychos in society.

[-] glad_cat@lemmy.sdf.org 27 points 1 year ago

You can start for free by testing all the middle-managers.

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[-] raptir@lemdro.id 9 points 1 year ago

What the fuck. Like I'd throw some paint at her or draw something funny on her but my god.

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[-] nieceandtows@programming.dev 64 points 1 year ago

Wow she stood still while someone slashed her throat to drink her blood. That’s commitment.

[-] mysoulishome@lemmy.world 94 points 1 year ago

The stuff they did boggles my mind such as cutting her with thorns, sexual assault. I don’t understand do they think because it’s “art” it isn’t a fucked up thing to do to a person?

[-] Poggervania@kbin.social 41 points 1 year ago

I wonder if it’s supposed to be part of the “art” - to show how depraved humans can be given a chance to do it scot-free.

[-] Lmaydev@programming.dev 61 points 1 year ago

Pretty sure that is literally the point of this.

[-] cactusupyourbutt@lemmy.world 26 points 1 year ago

I always felt like this was the whole point of the performance

[-] infinipurple@lemm.ee 8 points 1 year ago

Yeah, that's pretty much the point of this sort of endurance art.

[-] elbarto777@lemmy.world 28 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Bro. Artists can be very edgy. Sculptures of naked people, paintings of people fucking, I bet there is some piece made out of rubber vaginas somewhere.

I don't justify what people did to her, but you bet she knew what it was going to happen, even the thorn part. Otherwise, she would have stopped with the performance right there and there.

Edit: she even made a gun and a bullet available to the public!! I'd rather think it was a blank, but if it wasn't, then yeah....

Edit 2: Ok, I take it back! People are fucked up indeed: "When the gallery announced the work was over, and Abramović began to move again, she said the audience left, unable to face her as a person."

[-] mysoulishome@lemmy.world 30 points 1 year ago

I agree she was prepared for it and expected it but still fucked. She didn’t tell them to be cruel…she just said they were allowed to. Reminds me of the Stanford prison experiment where you kind of give people a tacit permission to be evil…so they do and then we are confronted with the aftermath. I just can’t imagine I could cause someone’s skin to bleed purposefully and not feel awful…

Not the same but related…this guy was shot as an art piece

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shoot_(Burden)

[-] rikudou@lemmings.world 34 points 1 year ago

The Stanford prison experiment couldn't be replicated and the data are widely considered useless in psychologist community. Basically someone wanted to be famous so they created a shocking but fake study.

[-] Thepolack@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago

If I correctly remember my psychology lessons from 10+ years ago though, the results of Milgram's experiment has been reproduced countless times which sort of backs up the original point.

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[-] MaryReadsBooks@lemmy.ml 17 points 1 year ago

The Stanford Prison Experiment was a sham and couldn't be replicated.

This Art project still seems gruesome....

[-] fubo@lemmy.world 23 points 1 year ago

There was no experiment. There was a LARP, in which the GM explicitly instructed the players to be abusive to one another. So they did. After a couple days of this bullshit, the GM's girlfriend made him stop the game.

[-] rambaroo@lemmy.world 21 points 1 year ago

No shit she knew what they were going to do. That was the point. She was making a point about how inhumane people become when they think there are no consequences for their actions.

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[-] H2207@lemmy.world 20 points 1 year ago

Even if the gun was loaded with a blank, at any distance where she can be the one holding it (assuming it's aimed at her) a blank would still do serious damage. When a blank is fired, solid propellant typically is ejected as well as ignited propellant and metal shavings. Too close and a blank is almost like birdshot.

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago

Brandon Lee was killed by a blank on the set of The Crow, wasn't he?

[-] H2207@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago

According to Wikipedia there was a squib load in the barrel, which was then pushed out by a blank round. So he was effectively shot, but the blank pushed out a bullet that was lodged in the barrel.

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[-] cactusupyourbutt@lemmy.world 18 points 1 year ago

so I realize this is probably a controversial take, but is it really sexual assault in this case. She did consent to „everything“ basically

[-] killeronthecorner@lemmy.world 17 points 1 year ago

It's a controversial take that has been the subject of all sorts of debate and even legislation. Some countries don't accept sweeping consent legally for anything, some people/groups think consent must be sought, etc.

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[-] BastingChemina@slrpnk.net 12 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

They are doing it because they can.

It probably means that they would do that to anyone is they know there will be no repercussions. Like someone who is passed out drunk or a child.

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[-] Defcon08@lemmy.world 41 points 1 year ago

From Wiki article: "When the gallery announced the work was over, and Abramović began to move again, she said the audience left, unable to face her as a person"

It worked, they really saw her as an object

[-] BrokebackHampton@kbin.social 27 points 1 year ago

And now that you know part of the story, please don't stop checking out this unknown gem:
https://youtu.be/GXyq2xUmsVQ

We deserve more Cate Blanchett in comedy roles

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[-] sudo22@lemmy.world 26 points 1 year ago

Is she what that one episode of House MD based on? There was a patient that essentially did the same art stunt that ended when a participant poured gas on her and started to light a match.

[-] Lt_Cdr_Data@discuss.tchncs.de 20 points 1 year ago

"Do with me what you want" They proceed to do with her what they want

Surprised pikachu face<

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[-] darcy@sh.itjust.works 20 points 1 year ago

sick album cover

[-] NigelFrobisher@aussie.zone 19 points 1 year ago

Clearly staged because no-one drew a spunking cock on her forehead.

[-] oldbaldgrumpy@lemmy.world 17 points 1 year ago

This is really disturbing. People in general are awful, that's my take away.

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[-] GrayBackgroundMusic@lemm.ee 16 points 1 year ago

Is this what Shia LeBouf was copying?

[-] DharmaCurious@startrek.website 14 points 1 year ago

That's honestly mortifying.

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