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America's largest LGBTQ rights group plans $15 million swing state blitz to re-elect Biden (www.nbcnews.com)

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And after crunching the numbers, the organization sees warning signs in the form of soft support for Biden in the 2024 electorate.

HRC estimates that this year there will be 75 million “equality voters” — who vote based on support for LGBTQ rights — up from 62 million in 2020 and 52 million in 2016. But the group says one-third of them aren’t a lock for Biden. In the six key swing states, hundreds of thousands are “at risk of not voting,” and another group of hundreds of thousands of voters are what HRC refers to as “double doubters” who will likely defect to a third party, according to data HRC shared with NBC News.

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[-] Allonzee@lemmy.world 67 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

This is what I'm voting for Biden on. The fascists and the neoliberals take the same orders on the economy destroying our shared COMMUNal habitat for short term private profit. We're only permitted a vote on how to address the social symptoms of our growth/metastasis addicted capitalist economy we aren't and never will be permitted a vote on.

All we get to vote on as we sink into oblivion are the handling of social issue symptoms. I'm voting Biden because we don't need to ALSO use the country's Presidential bully pulpit to scapegoat LGBTQ, immigrants, pregnant women, etc for it as we sink into oblivion.

That's the only power we have, so why not be kind with it? Here at the end? Just be kind?

[-] disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world 18 points 5 months ago

Agreed. Social and climate legislation are the most clear differences in the candidates.

[-] Dagwood222@lemm.ee 53 points 5 months ago

If you don't like Biden and he wins, you'll have a chance to vote for someone else in 2028.

If Trump wins, that 2028 election is not assured.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/andrewsolender/2020/09/13/trump-says-he-will-negotiate-third-term-because-hes-entitled-to-it/?sh=3c2a866d287c

[-] Moneo@lemmy.world 10 points 5 months ago

Also, yknow, the next 4 years will be a hell of a lot worse for a lot of people.

[+] anticolonialist@lemmy.cafe -17 points 5 months ago

*republicans all powerful and get everything they want. Democrats held back by republicans blocking everything they do.

This isn't the best argument for supporting your party

[-] Dagwood222@lemm.ee 10 points 5 months ago

So tell what great viable far Left candidate is waiting hidden in the wings?

Please, I'm dying to know the great alternative you've got lined up.

[+] anticolonialist@lemmy.cafe -9 points 5 months ago

If Democrats did their job and held their politicians accountable an alternative wouldn't be necessary. They are supporting their own oppressors and striking back at anyone trying to hold them accountable.

[-] Dagwood222@lemm.ee 10 points 5 months ago

So tell what great viable far Left candidate is waiting hidden in the wings?

Please, I’m dying to know the great alternative you’ve got lined up.

So much complaining, so little solution.

[-] Ibaudia@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago

It's more like

Republicans are willing to bend the rules and cheat to get what they want

Democrats are cucks to the system that they think is perfect

Honestly, fuck both of them. There are no good candidates this election.

[-] anticolonialist@lemmy.cafe -4 points 5 months ago

The thing is republicans dont have to cheat, the blue wing of fascism gives them everything they want. In rhetoric they are Pelosi ripping up her copy of Trumps SOTU, In action that very same day she gave him his requested military budget and threw in a few billion extra for good measure.

[-] Maggoty@lemmy.world 9 points 5 months ago

The best thing they could do is convince Biden to shut up about Israel unless it's to say, "We are stopping all military aid except air defense missiles to intercept rockets and we will not stand in the ICC's way."

[-] masquenox@lemmy.world -5 points 5 months ago

We are stopping all military aid

Considering that this most definitely means the end of Israel, you might just as well not bother with the air defence stuff, either.

[-] shasta@lemm.ee 3 points 5 months ago

Sounds like a good plan. Ship it

[-] masquenox@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago

Sounds like a good plan.

It was a good plan ten years ago, too. At least these days I don't get immediately banned for suggesting it.

[-] Maggoty@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago

Lmao. Dooom dooooooooommmmmmm.

[-] juicy@lemmy.today 9 points 5 months ago

Seeing as Trump raised 50% more than Biden in April, Biden needs all the help he can get.

[-] masquenox@lemmy.world -1 points 5 months ago

I mean - all power to them.

But Biden and the (so-called) "Democratic" party do not deserve any of this support.

[-] Moneo@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago

What makes you think the dems "deserving" the votes has absolutely anything to do with this? LGBQT+ people be trying to exist and you're asking them if Biden "deserves" their vote?

[-] masquenox@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago

What makes you think the dems “deserving” the votes has absolutely anything to do with this?

You really think the Dems are going to accept this support and think, "Gee, we should really do something to protect LGBQT+ folk, like... maybe not reaching across the aisle to the people that will gladly perpetrate mass-murder on them" huh?

If you do, I have a bridge to sell you.

[+] juicy@lemmy.today -23 points 5 months ago

You're literally called "Human Rights Campaign" and you're campaigning for someone who is supporting a genocide this minute with weapons. Shameless.

[-] Valmond@lemmy.world 14 points 5 months ago

Those LGBTQ people are, people. Human beings. Humans.

What a terf post.

[-] Maggoty@lemmy.world -1 points 5 months ago

What the hell does Trans Exclusionary Radical Feminism have to do with protesting a Genocide?

[-] Ibaudia@lemmy.world 10 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

The choice is:

Support candidate that is tacitly okay with genocide
Support candidate that is enthusiastic about genocide and stripping away LGBTQ rights
Say nothing and let the second candidate operate unimpeded by your opposition in key states

I mean... come on, let's be reasonable.

[-] Tryptaminev@lemm.ee -2 points 5 months ago

That is not how it works.

It is: "Who wants to get the vote must uphold human rights." The fact that Biden rather wants Trump to win, than to do that should tell you everything about how his second term and the DNC will be after him. Once they think it will gain them some votes from the Republicans, they will start to crack down on LGBT too.

[-] Ibaudia@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago

This only makes sense if the people who think like you reach a critical mass, which they have not and very likely never will.

[-] Tryptaminev@lemm.ee 1 points 5 months ago

And that is because of people like in this article paying a lot of money and working their lobbies very hard, to not have it happen. You are being propagandized with the same "us vs. them" bullshit, that the Reps pulled in 2016 to get Trump elected. 2024 Dem supporters sound scarily similar to 2016 Reps.

[-] Maggoty@lemmy.world -4 points 5 months ago

If he's okay with genocide over there then he's okay with it here. I get that HRC is trying to do damage control but this is evidence that Democrats will turn on marginalized groups the very second they think it benefits them.

[-] Ibaudia@lemmy.world 3 points 5 months ago

If he's okay with genocide over there then he's okay with it here

That is a gigantic jump but go off

[-] Maggoty@lemmy.world 0 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

It has to do with how someone values human life. They may not find a genocide here convenient or may not have the correct people in place, but they're okay with doing one if they thought they needed to.

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