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[-] Tattorack@lemmy.world 35 points 9 months ago

Half the time piped links won't work for me and the other half of the time the videos buffer incredibly slow.

[-] uuhhhhmmmm@sh.itjust.works 8 points 9 months ago

I think it's not a good idea to leave links to Piped instead of YouTube (same for Nitter/Twitter, Libreddit/Reddit, etc.). If you want to avoid YouTube, then just install LibRedirect extension or similar. Piped links are temporary, they'll break sooner or later, making it difficult for people to get to the website.

[-] Kushan@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago

The problem that I see is that all of these alternatives still rely on YouTube at the end of the day.

And the cost of setting up a new video hosting site that's free to consume content from is ridiculous.

[-] denshirenji@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago

Something that is federated like PeerTube would solve that specific issue, I believe. Many sites with their own user able to interact with each other. The biggest problem there is that there exists no good app to interact with PeerTube. You can use NewPipe or Greyjay, but you have to know the PeerTube instances first, no what's popular in the fediverse tab.

[-] Dariusmiles2123@sh.itjust.works 1 points 9 months ago

Peertube is great. And while the lack of an app is a problem, the lack of having a way to make money out if your videos is a bigger one for creators.

For now, they have to rely on Patreon or an equivalent.

[-] akwd169@sh.itjust.works 7 points 9 months ago

I had a similar time with piped not working reliably, I prefer invidious, specifically iv.ggtyler.dev has pretty much always worked for me

Anyways, It's really easy to just swap for another instance or whatever

OP link is

https://piped.video/watch?v=YnSv8ylLfPw

Just take everything after the domain and TLD

(everything after "piped.video")

And slap it on the end of another instances domain and TLD

(For example iv.ggtyler.dev)

End result:

iv.ggtyler.dev/watch?v=YnSv8ylLfPw

It even works with YouTube:

youtube.com/watch?v=YnSv8ylLfPw

[-] OpenStars@discuss.online 5 points 9 months ago

On the one hand, there are true alternatives like Vimeo. On the other, sometimes you just need to access an existing video...

[-] SqueakyBeaver@lemmy.blahaj.zone 27 points 9 months ago

I liked it except for that "ad blocking is piracy" shit he snuck in there

[-] Devorlon@lemmy.zip 0 points 9 months ago

Isn't it? You're not paying for a service / product.

[-] ___@lemm.ee 1 points 9 months ago

You should read a clockwork orange.

[-] secret300@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 9 months ago

If they want money from sponsors and advertising they could do it without all the trackers.

[-] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 0 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

That's the service's problem. VCRs and DVRs had ad-block ages ago, and those were commercial products sold at regular retail stores, so it's totally a non-issue.

An ad-blocker just means I'm not running optional extras. The web server says, "please display X, Y, and Z," and the ad-blocker says, "nah to Y and Z, but I'll render X." It's the same idea as safe-search filters to block websites, but it runs within "trusted" pages instead of just blocking certain domains.

It's the same with sponser blockers, but I personally don't use them and prefer to manually skip them instead unless the creator generally has good recs (e.g. I often watch them once/twice on Gamers Nexus, because they only recommend good products, but block the others).

Piracy is sharing content that you don't have the rights to share. Ad-block just blocks content you don't want to see. Those are not the same thing at all.

[-] Devorlon@lemmy.zip -1 points 9 months ago

Piracy is sharing content that you don't have the rights to share.

I'd classify watching something on piracysite.com as piracy.

I'd also class bypassing Netflix's login requirements to watch their catalogue as piracy. But I guess that's more a semantics thing.

[-] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 0 points 9 months ago

Sure, because in those cases you're gaining access to content that you don't have permission to access.

Ad-block isn't that, it's just blocking content you don't want. You still have permission to the content.

[-] Devorlon@lemmy.zip -1 points 9 months ago

You don't have permission to modify any of the content YouTube sends you.

https://www.youtube.com/t/terms#eb887a967c

Section: Permissions and Restrictions Point 2

circumvent, disable, fraudulently engage, or otherwise interfere with the Service (or attempt to do any of these things), including security-related features or features that: (a) prevent or restrict the copying or other use of Content; or (b) limit the use of the Service or Content;

[-] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 0 points 9 months ago

Yes, it's a violation of their TOS, but TOS is often illegal anyway.

I'm not modifying any of the content they send, I'm merely not rendering it. That's a very different thing. It's just like blocking fonts (I do that too), if I don't want an asset, I won't download it. If they want to block me because I'm blocking part of their page from loading, that's on them.

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[-] drspod@lemmy.ml 22 points 9 months ago

Go on then, LTT. Delete your youtube account.

[-] Dsklnsadog@lemmy.dbzer0.com 13 points 9 months ago

They are leading in the right direction. I think that's the important.

[-] dustyData@lemmy.world 0 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

I disagree, he is just mad because he wants to keep all the ad money for himself and thinks YouTube is stealing his profit. This is the “ad blocking is piracy” guy afterall. There's not a single moral shred in that video, it's all patronizing and capitalist greed. He just wants to keep all the subscription money without having to share it with anyone.

[-] halcyoncmdr@lemmy.world 12 points 9 months ago

They have already started their own platform, Floatplane. And other creators are on it as well.

Simple fact is though, YouTube is still king, and so leaving YouTube entirely isn't tenable at this point. But they are already working on alternatives.

[-] slimarev92@lemmy.world 0 points 9 months ago

Apparently they're going to address YouTube replacements in the second part of the series. Also I'm fairly sure they spoke about Youtube ReVanced a couple of times before.

[-] starman@programming.dev 21 points 9 months ago

Warning: It's Linus Sebastian

[-] foggenbooty@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago

Thank you, I was about to click.

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[-] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 0 points 9 months ago
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[-] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 0 points 9 months ago

Which streams YouTube content. He posted it to YouTube, piped just removes ads from YouTube videos.

[-] helpmyusernamewontfi@lemmy.today 0 points 9 months ago

it also proxies the video and blocks trackers iirc, giving you some form of anonymity from Google

[-] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 0 points 9 months ago

Right, but the point is that this is about de-Googling, and the video wast posted to a Google-owned site by someone who makes their livelihood from Google.

Piped and similar services are cool, it's just a weird conflict of interest.

[-] PunkiBas@lemmy.world 0 points 9 months ago

It's arguably the best place to reach the people who most need degoogling

[-] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 0 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Is it though? How likely is someone who watches that video to actually degoogle? He uses windows almost exclusively (Microsoft tracks you), shows benchmarks from games with DRM, recommends products that track you (e.g. Meta headsets), etc.

I'm not saying it's bad that he's doing it, I'm just saying it's ineffective. How many of these products does he actually use? Why should I trust his recommendations if he's not actually living a degoogled life?

I see it as lipservice for views, that's it. If he was really serious about it, I think he'd make his videos available on other services (and not just floatplane, that's a money grab).

I trust Louis Rossmann far more, because he:

  • uses the products he recommends
  • fights for real, legal change related to privacy
  • makes his videos available on Odyssee

That last one is a little self-serving because he's pushing his app Grayjay, but paying for the app is optional and no features are locked behind paying.

So I'm not gong ri applaud LTT for making this video. The intent is to drive clicks and ad revenue. I don't think that's bad, I just don't think it's worthy of commendation. If you want a better mainstream channel for this, check out Naomi Brockwell. She's quite pleasant to listen to and covers far more than LTT or Louis Rossmann ever would.

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[-] Alk@lemmy.world 7 points 9 months ago

If you're on desktop, check out freetube instead of the buggy mess that is piped links.

[-] Alatarius@lemmynsfw.com 4 points 9 months ago

Having issues playing this in mobile browser. Can't copy like to play in NewPipe mobile.

[-] Whirling_Cloudburst@lemmy.world 5 points 9 months ago

Try just putting the end into the search.

/watch?v=YnSv8ylLfPw

[-] akwd169@sh.itjust.works 1 points 9 months ago

Check out my other comment on this thread for a quick breakdown of YouTube/piped/invidious/etc links

[-] LordCrom@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago

Replace syncing to Google contacts and Google calendar with webDAV and calDAV to next cloud.

I run next cloud in my garage. DAVx is free from F-Droid app store. Setup is easy. And you don't need Google accounts to store contacts and calenda in your home cloud

[-] Andromxda@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 9 months ago
[-] randint@lemmy.frozeninferno.xyz 2 points 9 months ago

I installed it one week ago after getting a new Pixel 8. Loving it so far.

[-] NeonWoofGenesis@l.henlo.fi 0 points 9 months ago

This was just part 1 with probably the lowest hanging fruits :)

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[-] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 0 points 9 months ago

I just installed it yesterday and it was super easy. So far I'm liking it, and I now have two profiles: Owner (main, no Play services) and work (has Play services for work apps). I'm still moving all my crap over, so I guess we'll see over the next few weeks if I run into issues.

[-] Andromxda@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 9 months ago

Enjoy your spyware-free degoogled experience! Feel free to dm me if you have any questions. I'd say I'm quite experienced with GrapheneOS, degoogling and Android in general.

[-] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 0 points 9 months ago

Thanks, I might just do that!

I've only had it a day, and I haven't even swapped my SIM yet (waiting for my case to be delivered), so I'll give it a couple weeks to really get a feel for things. I'm going on a road trip soon, and may be going out of the country, so if I'm going to run into issues, it's going to be soon. I'm also going to try using the eSIM to trial Google Fi (international data FTW, free for 7 days), so it should be a rather complete experience.

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