The important thing is that you believe there was a study ;p

Somebody from Behavioural Economics has actually shown a nocebo effect for something with genuine positive health effects when people tought it was an ultra cheap version.

The story of that is in one of the Freakonomics books.

But you also might get more nocebos where you get negative effects from the placebo

This reminded me of an episode of Mind Field, which shows significant improvent in cases of ADHD, Migraines, and a skin picking disorder in kids just through the placebo effect.

They use elaborate set ups and suggestions like a turned off MRI machine, fake nurses and doctors in lab coats, etc. And the kids are actually told, that it's their brain doing the healing, not the machine.

Yeah, I heard that the placebo effect for pain meds is stronger in the US (than in Europe?) because there's more advertisment for it in the US (how they made sure this is causation and not correlation I have no idea, though ...)

I believe it's red placebos that are better at helping with pain.

The brain is a fucky old thing.

I find you have to use twice as much to have any effect.

Also money. It only works if you believe in it, yet it controls all of society

they work even when you know they're placebos. now that's magic.

I agree. However, to me, something feels wrong about companies making money selling a product to people with the promise that they work when they don't actually do anything in and of themselves. It's false advertising plus taking money out of people's pockets.

Take too much of a placebo and you might end up with a nocebo side-effect.

Just pretend you took an ephemeral pill. Placebos work like that too.

For me, it's whatever is in the biggest bottle.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=g6-XBTHiBHY