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[-] Sterile_Technique@lemmy.world 40 points 8 months ago

The planet is on fire, the nazis are back, we're taking leaps backwards in civil rights, genocides have become normalized, and the purchasing power of our labor has been hamstrung so many times that it's a double amputee.

Who the fuck looks at that dumpster fire and thinks "This is a great environment for a child!"?

[-] XTL@sopuli.xyz 12 points 8 months ago

And who is looking on yelling "we need more overpopulation"

[-] vzq@lemmy.blahaj.zone 15 points 8 months ago

There are lots of hard working bright people that are literally dying to come work and live in your country. This is not a population problem. It’s a racism problem.

[-] Arghblarg@lemmy.ca 11 points 8 months ago

But immigration <> birth rate. Within 1 or 2 generations those new people will also not want to have kids since they won't be able to afford anything either.

[-] vzq@lemmy.blahaj.zone 9 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Call me when the global birth rate is falling. Until then it’s a local problem.

And when the global birth rate is flattening I will throw a fucking party because we can finally start thinking about global sustainability.

[-] Xavienth@lemmygrad.ml 3 points 8 months ago

The global birth rate is falling. It's still quite above the replacement rate, but it is not as high as it used to be; it has fallen.

This comment makes no value judgement.

[-] sylver_dragon@lemmy.world 2 points 8 months ago

Call me when the global birth rate is falling.

I'm sorry, I can't hear you over the sound of the phone ringing.
UN Data shows the Fertility Rate falling from ~2.7 Births per Woman in 2000 to ~2.3 Births per Woman in 2024. Here is a handy chart of the data from 1960 to 2021. Global birth rates have been falling for most of the 20th and 21st centuries. Barring a major shift in demographics, the world's population should peak this century. That isn't a terrible thing, and probably a good thing from a climate perspective. But, it will have economic consequences which we will need to deal with (aging populations, economic stagnation, shrinking workforces, shrinking economies). None of this has to be a problem, but those types of demographic changes can cause societal instability.

[-] vzq@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 8 months ago

Don’t be sorry, it’s the best news I’ve heard all decade!

The maddening thing is that you know the economic consequences would be easier to deal with a bit of solidarity, but we’re not going to.

[-] Reverendender@sh.itjust.works 1 points 8 months ago

Also they will be living in a post apocalyptic nightmare land

[-] BugleFingers@lemmy.world 6 points 8 months ago

I almost had kids, my one and ONLY condition with my partner at the time was a stable living situation, aka a house. It's been years since them and its only gettingore unaffordable. I've had to move every year for the past 4 years to not get out priced. Rent has increased 50% since then too

[-] autotldr@lemmings.world 2 points 8 months ago

This is the best summary I could come up with:


According to the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC), the general fertility rate has reached a historic low after decreasing almost every year since 2014.

The issue is being increasingly discussed by experts and commentators, with X, formerly Twitter, CEO Elon Musk taking to the platform to say that the "collapsing birthrate is the biggest danger civilization faces by far."

Polling conducted for Newsweek by Redfield & Wilton Strategies surveying 1,500 eligible U.S. voters on May 1 has found that 42 percent of Americans are "not at all concerned" over falling birthrates.

Neal Shah, founder and CEO of health-tech startup CareYaya, told Newsweek that the lack of desire to have children is down to a variety of factors, saying "2024 is a tough time to be a young adult."

"The uncertainties and stresses heightened by the COVID-19 pandemic could prompt people to reconsider their life goals and family planning choices.

Other major economies, including Japan, China, South Korea and the United Kingdom, are also recording declines in the number of births each year.


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