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You gotta be a special kind of sad to DDoS archive.org...
..or paid well.
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Across social, economic, and political spectra, you can always tell the good guys from the bad guys by their stance on access to knowledge.
Had an argument with FIL where he argued his last child Is out of school so he votes against school taxes. I'm like you know that pays for the people you and your family will interact with. His response was "I want them as ignorant as me". Even as joke it's lacks wisdom. He just complained about doctors being uneducated an hour before.
Ffffuck that's depressing.
I don't even have kids. I'm actually pretty against having them in general. But education is an existential requirement to a functioning democracy, and even a basic education is so broadening.
The only reason to want people ignorant is if you're trying to swindle them, which honestly benefits no one in the long run.
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Foreign government, moneyed interests, or domestic dipshits, taking all bets.
Barnes & Nobel going rouge.
Really? I thought they were more of a chartreuse myself...
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Someone facing an enormous lawsuit who realized their tweets / claims were accessible and needs to buy time for their legal team.
-me a day or two ago
Warner bros for 10k please
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A quick search indicates that they’ve archived ~100PB of data.
Now I’m trying to come up with a way to archive the internet archive in a peer-to-peer/federated fashion while maintaining fidelity as much as possible…
That’s what IPFS is for. It’s ideal for that kind of stuff
Can DDOS attacks actually erase/corrupt stored data though? There’s no way they’re running all of this on a single server, with hundreds of PB’s worth of storage, right?
No. It affects availability. Not integrity or confidentiality.
DDOS attacks block connection to the servers, they don't actually harm the data itself. You could probably overload a server to the point of it shutting down, which might affect data in transit, but data at rest usually wouldn't be harmed in any way; unless through some freak accident a server crash would render a drive unusable. But even then, servers are usually fully redundant, and have RAID systems in place that mirror the data, so kind of a dual redundancy. Plus actual backups on top of that; though with that amount of data they might have a priority system in place and not everything is fully backed up.
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Losing the internet archive would be such a huge loss... I really hope they have a backup plan in case things go bad legally.
yeah, it's definitely going to be one of the most important things to have ever happened in human history, if it does.
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if you have a spare corner in your server, host the archive warrior and help them out.
To contribute: http://warrior.archiveteam.org/
Help? https://wiki.archiveteam.org/
Background on the project: https://netzpolitik.org/2023/archive-team-shutdowns-dont-stop-during-the-weekends/
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Spooling up 10x VM, I have 50 terabyte of ammo at 10gbit. Give me the one-liner install and run.
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That last sentence though...
- **"The cyberattacks share the timeline with the legal battle Internet Archive is facing from US book publishers, claiming copyright infringement and seeking combined damages of hundreds of millions of dollars from all libraries." ** *
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Stop it you fucking bastards!
The Internet Archive needs to be distributed somehow. We can't have a single point of failure like this or we've learned nothing since Alexandria.
I've got several terabytes just laying around that I'd happily devote to ancient copies of web pages.
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Describing a high intensity DDOS attack on one of the world's most important resources as simply "mean" is unironically one of the funniest things I've read this year.
Hope they get some support soon.
If it's an entity, my money would be on China just discovering it exists since it diametrically opposes its propaganda machine. But it could very well just be dark web shitheads whose seasonal drug binge just spiked up again, plenty of them to go around to make accusations and propaganda they know are false whom can't simply backtrack it because of archive.org and it doesn't require much to disrupt a still too largely implicit trust driven Internet.
Wasn’t there some controversy involving Internet Archive just recently?
Whoever’s behind this is trying to get rid of the fact that Internet Archive creates memory of the internet’s contents. Somebody wants to be able to control what people see on the internet.
Heck it could be Google doing it, since that would be in line with their recent push to change the way search works. Both of those act as components of a larger drive to control what people see and hear.
i honestly really hope this shit gets taken care of so internet archive can still keep going
I'm not good with computers and stuff. If somebody finds these scumbags who are ddos'ing internet archive I'd be very grateful. Also fucking them up in the process is also good.
Well Google search method was just leaked... Wonder if this picked that up before they pulled it.
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What can we do to help?
Is it possible that someone is conducting some operation and doesn’t want it to be randomly documented?
Some state maybe? Eh I just have a hard time thinking of motives for this attack
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Can someone explain why they're not able to protect against this? Couldn't they put request limits or monitor for spikes and banning these attempts?
Without knowing how, not really. If it's a massive multi-device botnet, like Mirai, for example, that's millions of indvidual devices across millions of addresses, so it isn't so simple as just blocking a domain. Trying to block all of them might well just block legitimate users.
Request limits also wouldn't work if it's millions of devices making a few requests at once, and an overall limit would have a similar locking-out effect as blocking everything. Especially if the DDoS is taking up most/all of that limit.
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