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Legislation just signed into law has made it exceedingly to difficult to track private jet activity.

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[-] TH1NKTHRICE@lemmy.ca 71 points 5 months ago

It’s about Swift and not one of the richest people in the world who lives in the kleptocracy that passed this legislation and historically has made a big fuss over this issue?

[-] ryven@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 5 months ago

He is also in the article, yes.

[-] Deello@lemm.ee 8 points 5 months ago

I blind clicked hoping that wasn't the answer

[-] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 67 points 5 months ago

Congress is working on issues that matter to the American people.

Like making sure the wealthy are even less accountable.

[-] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 0 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Its the Tragedy of the Commons. No single individual really has an incentive to stop flying, outside of the marginal impact on PR. So everyone just says its someone else's problem.

The FAA is toothless. The EPA is toothless. The individual industry leaders are more legally beholden to shareholders than any regulatory body. Even in aggregate, the emission volume of flights pale beside the emissions caused by coal stacks and automotive emissions and bunker fuel from bulk cargo shipping, so its the billionaire equivalent of saying "At least I'm recycling" when pushed about what you're doing to curb greenhouse gases.

At the end of the day, what we need is a comprehensive investment in high speed mass transit. But fossil fuel companies hate that. Aeronautics companies hate that. Politicians fixated on quarterly budget figures hate that. And the folks that would actually build rail in this country no longer exist.

So whatchagonna do? Shrug, blame "the system", and go with the flow because everyone else is doing it.

[-] Nobody@lemmy.world 62 points 5 months ago

bill that was passed last week will allow private aircraft owners to anonymize their registration information

Private planes fly anonymously? Even if order and justice was restored to the world, we couldn’t find the next Epstein’s island.

And how will this affect drug trafficking? If you can’t trace private planes, it becomes the Wild West.

[-] SturgiesYrFase@lemmy.ml 22 points 5 months ago

Oh, the anonymity only counts for the public. The alphabet soup guys will know.

[-] Num10ck@lemmy.world 6 points 5 months ago

investigative reporting should exist

[-] beardown@lemm.ee -1 points 5 months ago

Bezos owns the Washington Post

[-] Cosmicomical@lemmy.world 19 points 5 months ago

You don't know? Rich people is above suspect and law

[-] j4k3@lemmy.world 59 points 5 months ago

Neo feudalism just checked another box against democracy.

[-] themeatbridge@lemmy.world 53 points 5 months ago

Right, they did it for Taylor Swift.

[-] DogPeePoo@lemm.ee 36 points 5 months ago

It definitely had nothing to do with Elon Musk or Ken Griffin. Definitely not.

[-] DancingBear@midwest.social 19 points 5 months ago

So if the only thing hidden is the airplanes ID seems like it would still be relatively easy to have a program sift through the data.2

[-] pineapplelover@lemm.ee 6 points 5 months ago

Yeah all we need is to track which private plane specifically went on the exact pattern of her tours

[-] DancingBear@midwest.social 1 points 5 months ago

Personally I don’t care where celebrities are at any given time. But I do think it’s interesting, for example to see how international climate summits are some of the biggest environmental impacts as far as carbon footprint etc for example, or seeing how celebrities take personal jets to go to the convenience store

[-] Cosmicomical@lemmy.world 16 points 5 months ago

Dammit, I guess we can't complain anymore about how much fuel they waste every day, so we are fine. Oh wait, no they are still pieces of shit.

[-] ParabolicMotion@lemmy.world 14 points 5 months ago

So when her plane goes missing, we’ll all treat her like Amelia Earhart. She doesn’t fly her own plane though; not quite Amelia.

[-] autotldr@lemmings.world 11 points 5 months ago

This is the best summary I could come up with:


Celebrities and billionaires have long complained that it’s just way too easy for random people on the internet to monitor how much fuel exhaust they waste as they flit through the skies via their private jets.

An amendment in the Federal Aviation Administration re-authorization bill that was passed last week will allow private aircraft owners to anonymize their registration information.

Jet tracking has been made possible up until this point because private plane owners were forced to register aircraft ownership information with the FAA civil registry.

The Warzone originally reported that the new FAA reauthorization bill, which was introduced last June, will effectively make it impossible (or, at the very least, very, very hard) to track the jet activity of the well-to-do.

That’s a bummer, since in an age of environmental concerns, it’s been helpful to know which members of America’s gilded class are spewing jet fuel into the atmosphere.

Elon Musk famously threatened to sue Jack Sweeney, an undergraduate at the University of Florida, after the student made a Twitter account that tracked the billionaire’s private jet activity, ElonJet, in 2020.


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[-] riodoro1@lemmy.world 8 points 5 months ago

So congress does actually work?

[-] Cosmicomical@lemmy.world 21 points 5 months ago

Of course they do, just not for you

[-] aeronmelon@lemmy.world 7 points 5 months ago

Is it "impossible" or is it "exceedingly difficult?"

[-] Badeendje@lemmy.world 4 points 5 months ago

Yeah well figuring out who owns what jet will bearginally harder. Like with metadata if you have a few data points it will be easy to figure out who owns what plane. And it is not like these people don't travel much so the data points will Stack up fast.

[-] Fedizen@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago

does this actually anonymize it or just give the jet a tracking number?

[-] Everythingispenguins@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago

You will still be able to track jets by their transponder. Planes are required to broadcast their location at all times.

What has changed is if there is a name attached to that transponder. This lets the owners of private planes can now have the FFA remove their name from the public record.

[-] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago

It's a big club, and we ain't in it.

[-] TokenBoomer@lemmy.world 0 points 5 months ago

I’ve never wanted to be in that club. In fact, I think I’m happier because I’m not.

[-] AnarchistArtificer@slrpnk.net 0 points 5 months ago

I'm glad for people like you, because I've spent a good chunk of my life desperately wishing to be in that club, and then another chunk being sad that I wouldn't be able to be. I was miserable and latched onto something that I believed would alleviate it, but I nowadays definitely think I'm happier not being in that club.

[-] Fosheze@lemmy.world 0 points 5 months ago

I've never really wanted to be in the private jet billionare club but I have always wanted to be in the "have a nice paid off house and enough money to safely start a small business" club. Sure, being a billionare would get me that but what would I do with the other 99.999% of the money?

[-] AnarchistArtificer@slrpnk.net 2 points 5 months ago

I think I mostly just wanted to be in the "so rich I never have to think about money again. Growing up super poor left its marks on me and now even though I am relatively secure and comfortable, I still have a background anxiety about whether I'll have enough.

There's an instinct within me that screams that I shouldn't share resources with other people unless I'm sure I have more than enough for myself. If I indulged that instinct, that would mean that in a situation where there's enough for everyone, I'd feel most comfortable with 3 or more shares, because then even if I gave away one of my shares to someone else, I'd still have what I need, plus some buffer. There's a reason I work very hard to not indulge that instinct though, because I don't want to hoard at the expense of other people like me.

Like I say, it's just part of a wish of not having to think about money at all. I had some very rich friends in uni, and sometimes they'd shop in places where the clothes didn't have price tags, the kinds of places where if you had to ask, you couldn't afford it. I envied the fact that they didn't have to think about money more than I did the material luxuries they could afford

[-] techwizrd@programming.dev 1 points 5 months ago

Unfortunately, this will also make aviation safety analysis more difficult for us.

[-] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world -1 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

The plane crash we don't hear about is one we don't worry about. Good news for the aviation industry.

[-] BigMacHole@lemm.ee 0 points 5 months ago

This is going to help bring down everyday prices, stop Genocide and will ensure another Epstein type billionaire who privately flies people to his pedophile island will receive swift Justice!

[-] rayyy@lemmy.world -1 points 5 months ago

Tracking of any wealthy person by terrorists could become a huge potential problem.

[-] MindTraveller@lemmy.ca 7 points 5 months ago

You misspelled solution.

[-] JoeBigelow@lemmy.ca 2 points 5 months ago
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