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[-] Atelopus-zeteki@kbin.run 58 points 5 months ago

Why is there no "controversy" about destroying the planet, ongoingly with petroleum products?

[-] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 18 points 5 months ago

It’s the WaPo. They report to you the republiQan talking points in their best liberal-npr-radio voice.

[-] fishos@lemmy.world 6 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Because we're being wise enough to question if this might have unintended consequences. For example, it might just shift the problem elsewhere and cause more severe draughts for someone else. Just a hypothetical to point out why people might not be immediately onboard with this.

Tho, fun fact, California has been doing this kind of stuff since at least the 60's. It's called cloud seeding and we've had numerous programs running. They just never got much attention. But technically, the chem trails conspiracy is based in a bit of truth. It's just not every airplane, but it's happening. A quick Google search will give you tons of government pages about it. It's not a secret.

[-] JackbyDev@programming.dev 3 points 5 months ago

Genuine answer: This is controversial because it is to intentionally alter the climate. We use fossil fuels for energy, not to alter the climate. The climate stuff is a negative side effect of fossil fuels.

[-] futatorius@lemm.ee 0 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Once you know the side effects of something, if you continue doing it, that's intentional. So I don't think that distinction makes much of a difference.

[-] JackbyDev@programming.dev 1 points 4 months ago

It makes a massive difference. It's the reason why one of them is considered a controversial new technology.

[-] TootSweet@lemmy.world 24 points 5 months ago

Yes. There's no possible way this could go wrong.

/s

[-] BlueLineBae@midwest.social 10 points 5 months ago

Starts frantically building a train to house what's left of humanity.

[-] Nougat@fedia.io 1 points 5 months ago
[-] BlueLineBae@midwest.social 2 points 5 months ago

Pretty sure Snow Piercer is a train...

[-] over_clox@lemmy.world 0 points 5 months ago

Your train will rust away in the salty rain..

[-] AbouBenAdhem@lemmy.world 19 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

I agree that the focus needs to be on cutting emissions, and I share the concern for unintended consequences. But I don’t know if that concern justifies shutting down an experiment that would help identify those consequences.

[-] Zip2@feddit.uk 13 points 5 months ago

Sounds like someone got confused with seasons and seasoning.

[-] Fiivemacs@lemmy.ca 10 points 5 months ago

Watch it work and cool the planet...but then we get salt water rains and it kills all vegetation that it touches resulting in an even worse fate.

[-] futatorius@lemm.ee 4 points 5 months ago

First thought I had reading that article was "soil salinity."

[-] MachineFab812@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 5 months ago

That's not how precipitation works.

[-] Peppycito@sh.itjust.works 2 points 5 months ago

Didn't that just happen with the Tonga eruption? I guess they wouldn't be adding all the water though.

[-] silence7@slrpnk.net 5 points 5 months ago

Tonga pumped water into the stratosphere, not just the troposphere.

[-] futatorius@lemm.ee 1 points 4 months ago
[-] SteefLem@lemmy.world 0 points 5 months ago

Well no. But… it would kill all plants so thats a bonus

[-] silence7@slrpnk.net 4 points 5 months ago

The idea is to increase the amount of salt in the air over the ocean. It probably won't kill all plants.

[-] over_clox@lemmy.world 4 points 5 months ago

Clouds move ya know. I'm not exactly sure why, but I've heard people on the television call it 'weather', or something like that.

[-] SteefLem@lemmy.world 3 points 5 months ago

Things you put in clouds or water will come down to earth

[-] silence7@slrpnk.net 3 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

They do. And done right, it'll come down over the ocean, and have a rather minimal impact in the amount of salt being transported to land.

There are other reasons this is a really bad idea; this is one where the harm is probably limited.

[-] Akasazh@feddit.nl 2 points 5 months ago

And done right....

See, we don't have the best track record on that particular aspect of this.

[-] Gsus4@mander.xyz 1 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

That actually sounds good, I just dont know how they will spread salt periodically over the millions of square kms needed to make a difference on the Pacific's albedo without a huge carbon footprint.

[-] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago

Aizoaceae has entered the chat..

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