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[-] boredsquirrel@slrpnk.net 93 points 5 months ago

A library is paid though.

Donate to your instance, and decentralize the Fediverse.

[-] lud@lemm.ee 15 points 5 months ago
[-] boredsquirrel@slrpnk.net 12 points 5 months ago

Where i come from you can go there and read for free, but if you want to borrow stuff you need to have a card which is paid my an abo.

And they will also get money by the city likely

[-] ericatty@lemmy.ml 15 points 5 months ago

In my city/county, you get a free card if you can prove you live here (show something with your address) Our system will also do fundraisers to supplement the budget from taxes. We almost lost some libraries a gew years ago, but voters remade the local government and they are safer now.

[-] lud@lemm.ee 10 points 5 months ago

That's sucks.

In my country I'm pretty sure library cards are always free. The card has to be collected in person though.

[-] boredsquirrel@slrpnk.net 4 points 5 months ago

Welcome to Germany! Fucking hell here

[-] jjjalljs@ttrpg.network 5 points 5 months ago

NYC libraries are free, but asshole conservatives (but I repeat myself) don't want to fund them.

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[-] snek_boi@lemmy.ml 91 points 5 months ago
  1. Of course, people should donate to make Lemmy sustainable.
  2. I recognize that this is true of any website that is not enshitified or, more broadly, is designed to maximize profits. Websites made with libre software are the public libraries of the internet!
[-] Rentlar@lemmy.ca 48 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

It's like a public library that lets you borrow and read books from other cities' libraries!

[-] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 38 points 5 months ago

Yes, we have interlibrary loan.

[-] snek_boi@lemmy.ml 15 points 5 months ago

Instant interlibrary loan!

[-] RustyEarthfire@lemmy.world 5 points 5 months ago

Interlibrary loans are a wonder of the world and a glory of civilization

-Jo Walton, Among Others

[-] NateNate60@lemmy.world 13 points 5 months ago

I'm pretty sure most libraries also have that.

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 11 points 5 months ago

That's called interlibrary loan and it predates the internet by a long time.

1876 officially. Unofficially, centuries before.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interlibrary_loan

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[-] SorteKanin@feddit.dk 40 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Don't know where I read it, but I also like this metaphorical comparison:

Traditional social media is like a shop, except the customers are advertisers and you, as a user sit on the shelves, waiting to be bought. It's made entirely for revenue and profit, everything else is secondary. The shop will gladly show you an advertiser that pays for your attention before showing you your parent's vacation photos or the important post from that group you follow.

A fediverse instance is like a community garden. Nobody is a product and nobody is buying anything for themselves. Instead, everyone grows the garden together. Some people took initiative and responsibility with running the garden (admins/mods) and others joined and shared the garden with them and supported the garden with funds and content.

In the fediverse garden, there is no other point than talking amongst each other and the garden is connected to other gardens that work mostly with the same principles and the gardens "cross-polinate" each other with discussions and content and through that help each other grow even more.

[-] Sam_Bass@lemmy.world 37 points 5 months ago
[-] lseif@sopuli.xyz 29 points 5 months ago

neither is running a library

[-] TwilightVulpine@lemmy.world 4 points 5 months ago

No but Lemmy is not publicly funded so people should send them a few bucks every now and then.

[-] Wiz@midwest.social 20 points 5 months ago

People should tip their servers, what they can afford.

It's worth it

[-] Daxtron2@startrek.website 10 points 5 months ago

No one said it was?

[-] Fizz@lemmy.nz 24 points 5 months ago

I did a 1 time donation to my instance and the devs that should cover more than a few years of me watching ads.

It's weird though because I really value the idea of supporting projects I like but I find it so hard to part with money when I am not forced. This does become easier as I become more financially stable.

[-] blindbunny@lemmy.ml 20 points 5 months ago

I feel gross hording money at this point. I buy a lot of shit for my hobbies but I hate buying fast food and usually just buy two and give the second away as punishment for the sin.

I'm getting weird in my old age.

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[-] boojumliussnark@lemmy.world 24 points 5 months ago

Libraries are paid for by taxes

[-] SomeGuy69@lemmy.world 14 points 5 months ago

Imagine an international tax founded fediverse with Lemmy, Mastodon, peertube and others. My personal dream.

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[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 6 points 5 months ago

Taxes are not direct payments and taxes would be collected regardless of the existence of libraries.

[-] TheRealKuni@lemmy.world 6 points 5 months ago

Taxes are not direct payments and taxes would be collected regardless of the existence of libraries.

I dunno about where you live, but where I live libraries are funded by millage. We vote to fund the libraries specifically with a tax. So if we didn’t have the libraries, we wouldn’t pay that millage.

Taxes would still be collected, but not THAT tax.

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[-] samus12345@lemmy.world 17 points 5 months ago

"You mean it just exists so people can share shitposts and memes? No engagement goals to please advertisers and shareholders?"

[-] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 6 points 5 months ago

It’s a bold strategy, Cotton. Let’s see if it pays off.

(Self aware double entendre in that statement)

[-] Blackout@kbin.run 15 points 5 months ago

You even get the homeless guy watching porn here.

[-] nifty@lemmy.world 15 points 5 months ago

I just need a place to shitpost for stress relief, I get drawn into deeper discussions but my main goal is to be as thoughtless and as dumb as possible Wheeeeeeeee

[-] r00ty@kbin.life 15 points 5 months ago

I think a federation of smaller hobby run sites is going to be the only way to avoid the commercialised Internet, and all the negatives it involves.

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[-] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 13 points 5 months ago
[-] snek_boi@lemmy.ml 15 points 5 months ago

I agree! I donate so that Lemmy is sustainable and so that others who can’t donate have access to Lemmy for free.

[-] Daxtron2@startrek.website 7 points 5 months ago

Well no, otherwise it wouldn't be a donation

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[-] eestileib@sh.itjust.works 11 points 5 months ago

Well, if you want your instance to stay up you should expect to pitch in for operating costs...

[-] NateNate60@lemmy.world 8 points 5 months ago

I donate 12€ a year through OpenCollective. Donate here!. That's 12€ more than any other social media site has ever gotten out of me. Donations also support mastodon.world.

If everyone donated 12€ a year then they'd be so flush with cash that it'd make the Wikimedia Foundation look broke.

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[-] jet@hackertalks.com 9 points 5 months ago

/me taking a 3 hour sink shower in the bathroom

[-] blindbunny@lemmy.ml 8 points 5 months ago

Mfer people got heroin to do! Wtf is taking so long?

[-] Carighan@lemmy.world 8 points 5 months ago

You might however be watching ads. And probably not realize it.
(Although, to be fair, right now we're probably much too small for anyone to bother doing much astroturfing)

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 4 points 5 months ago

Even if there was astroturfing, I wouldn't say that counters OP's arguments any more than it would if some guy came in and started handing out coupons to a pizza place in the local public library.

[-] meliaesc@lemmynsfw.com 7 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

The irony of my app having (well, trying to) ads is not lost on me.

[-] nickwitha_k@lemmy.sdf.org 7 points 5 months ago

Yeah... Having ads in an app for FOSS software automatically makes it shit-tier for me. Even if they are blocked. I just really hate ads though.

[-] JohnOliver@feddit.dk 6 points 5 months ago

You pay with engagement. !

[-] JohnOliver@feddit.dk 6 points 5 months ago

Hear me out. Are we sure that European admins can't ask for national or European funds to run a Lemmy instances?

[-] FilthyCheese@lemm.ee 5 points 5 months ago

Can I use the printer?

[-] anas@lemmy.world 3 points 5 months ago
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