He's crazy for trying, yet also based as hell
I mean... You gotta be crazy to try and open a gay night club in a place that criminalizes being gay and not expect to be detained or even killed. I get it's likely a form of protest, I'm just not sure what their desired outcome was.
They have more balls than me for trying.
For his next act, a swingers club in Saudi Arabia
Global news coverage and maybe some light martyrdom on the side?
In their defense, you'd have to be insane to open a gay club in Pakistan.
Or any Muslim majority country.
"Religion of peace".
People are always surprised that I'm against Muslim immigrants. I don't get it. I'm gay, seems pretty obvious to be against those who would rather I die. And I'm not against middle eastern immigrants. But Muslims? I have enough trouble with the Christians. Please keep your even more backward, fucked up religion in your shitty countries; which are only shitty because they are led by a backward, fucked up religion.
It sounds like a clever provocation, and he probably made sure it catches attention before they can silently move it under the carpet. He didn't do any crime, he even proposed compromises to make it seem OK and followed official procedures, so they can't (now, publicly) presecute him by law, but it offended their homophobia that much they found nothing more clever than dropping him into a mental yard instead of, like, declining his idea for some made up reason. What's that if not a high-risk high-reward prank activism? At least, we now know that the state of Pakistan loses it's shit over him touching that nerve.
I'm not gay, but I truely Admire him
You’re allowed to admire gay people without saying “I’m not gay” lol
I'm not gay, but you're right.
I'm not gay, but well said.
Oh thank you so much!
Im not gay, but you're welcome.
TBH the information I gleamed from this is that Pakistan somehow has mental hospitals when much of the USA lacks that sort of amenity.
If you live in the US and experience a psychotic episode, a suicidal crisis, or another mental health emergency - where do you go?
Don't need to go anywhere. The police will come and shoot you.
Americans are so lazy, everything has to be a delivery service.
Fucking hell, this was cold and I am a terrible person for laughing at it.
Real answer? Social Services is probably the number to call unless there is a emergency medical issue in which case just regular 9-1-1.
Likely you will either ride in an ambulance or with two social workers in a car to the hospital. 24-48 hours out-patient while you are stabilized. If it is a temporary situation, say you had an insanely high fever and were delirious you would just go home. If it wasn't temporary highly likely assigned a case manager for placement.
Despite what you see in the movies/TV you will not be thrown into an mental institution you will not be forced to take a cocktail of drugs that make you a zombie.
My experience does not come from movies. I am an outpatient psychotherapist (in a country with a reasonably functioning psychiatric system). I have repeatedly seen patients slip into psychomental crises where outpatient care is no longer sufficient. The local psychiatric clinics were sometimes real lifesavers. That's why I find the idea of healthcare without emergency institutions confusing. I would find it terrible not to be able to offer my patients anything in such emergencies.
Glad we supported the Pakistani coup and decided to recognize the illegitimate and fraudulent Pakistani elections where they jailed Imran Khan.
And now we get bonus points for being able to whine about the right wingers we're supporting!
As per Wikipedia:
The UN noted that there had been arrests of homosexuals within the past three years in 2018, 2019 and 2022.
So it's not like LGBT issues were much better under Imran Khan either.
Pakistan now went more right instead of less right so I'd be surprised if it isn't worse now.
I wouldn't be surprised either, but you made it sound like things are a lot more clear cut than they actually are.
The new Pakistani government is pretty extreme right wing so it's certainly not getting better.
I’m not saying his overall intent was a bad one. But if you try something like that, in a country like Pakistan, you do kinda deserve to be in a mental hospital. I understand trying to spread acceptance and provide a safe place to go for those not accepted by the local society at large, but maybe there are better, even slightly more accepting places where this kind of idea would pan out. I feel like this is equivalent to opening a dispensary in Thailand.
He maybe should've known that it wouldn't work, but does he 'deserve' to be in a mental hospital? Absolutely not.
Honestly, better being committed to a hospital where he can't be killed by a mob.
I'm all for fighting for human rights, but you have to fight. Just hoping for the best is never going to end well.
Opening the club was the fight. Because all the reason the commenter above you said.
Lemmy: protest groups have every right to block ambulances in the English-speaking world. If people die they die.
Also Lemmy: we have to respect the homophobia of Islam because Christopher Hitchens supported the Iraq War 21 years ago.
Its a crazy thing to try in a mullahville. Those guys hate anyone who isn't their particular flavor. Pretty much like baptist with more power.
It’s kinda ridiculous, I hate that Islamic countries fail the separation of religion and state test. Education is a great way to change it, and just aiming to make people less religiously inclined.
Islam was designed to be all encompassing. A separation of religion and state is anathema to Islam.
Doesn’t matter, and same can be said of any religion. What matters is educating people and making them prefer secular states.
Not sure why he thought that was a good idea. Being gay is fine but Pakistan not the best place.
I imagine to make a point.
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