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Steve Bannon asks appeals court to keep him out of prison due to his importance in Trump’s campaign (www.independent.co.uk)
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[-] BlameThePeacock@lemmy.ca 92 points 5 months ago

I swear the US is fucked at this point. We're watching the collapse of the American empire in real-time. I expect a USSR style split in my lifetime, and a whole lot of upset rubes who thought that they could just pretend reality didn't exist and things would go well for them.

I just don't know which state(s) are going to split off first. Will it be the western states together, a handful of north eastern states, or will some bastard grouping of southern states decide they've had enough. Stay tuned!

[-] shalafi@lemmy.world 50 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

We can't split up, all too interdependent. For example, I see people on here telling the red states to fuck off to themselves. Good luck eating food.

How about military presence? Trying to split down on that is a hard stop, not even thinkable. The federal government ain't going to allow it, no matter what.

Any Southerners wanting to try again are getting stomped far faster than last time. Even then, you got armed libs like me embedded in the countryside. And yes, it's worth my life to shoot "red shirts". (And that's easy for me to say. I'm older and understood my history classes.)

[-] BottleOfAlkahest@lemmy.world 34 points 5 months ago

A third of vegetables grown in the US come from California and an even higher percentage of fruits and nuts.

[-] Stupidmanager@lemmy.world 3 points 5 months ago

Yep. Though until California can pull pure water from salt water, Utah will stop water from coming in. Though in Colorado, we’ll just block it off before it gets there as we battle out our own red vs blue. Fuckem.

[-] Cosmonauticus@lemmy.world 3 points 5 months ago

Good luck growing anything after succeeding. It would severely limit California's access to the Colorado river and considering California is already in a water crisis being self sustainable wouldn't last very long

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[-] BlameThePeacock@lemmy.ca 3 points 5 months ago

You're assuming that if they break apart, they wouldn't trade with each other anymore. That's not what happened with the USSR, and it's not what happened with Brexit, and it's not what would happen if the US split apart.

The federal government won't be able to do jack shit if California, Oregon(maybe not), and Washington decide to stop giving it money. Sending in the military wouldn't work, there's far too many conflicts of interest within the troops. People who were born there, or have family there, or friends.

[-] GiuseppeAndTheYeti@midwest.social 10 points 5 months ago

Seceding from the union is illegal. They would just arrest the organizers in the state government and replace them with acceptable politicians to bring them back in line.

[-] frezik@midwest.social 5 points 5 months ago

Seceding from the union is illegal, unless we all agree that this is going to happen.

But there's plenty of other geographical issues with this idea. It's hard to draw lines around liberal cities and conservative rural areas.

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[-] ramble81@lemm.ee 15 points 5 months ago

One of the problems I see is that distilling it down more granularly at a state level is you have a huge urban/rural divide. That’s something you just can’t draw a clean line around. You would see a much messier civil war because it’d be “cities against farms”, not just state against state. That’s just one of the many, many issues that would arise.

[-] frezik@midwest.social 14 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

The divide isn't between states, though. It's more rural vs urban, and that doesn't divide up well into individual countries. Illinois and New York, for example, will still be a core liberal city dominating their conservative rural areas. Likewise, Texas will still be a few core liberal cities dominated by conservative rural areas. There's not a good way to break any of those cases up.

[-] db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 13 points 5 months ago

I expect a USSR style split in my lifetime

"Balkanization" is the word, in case you're wondering

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[-] Peppycito@sh.itjust.works 5 points 5 months ago

I've been thinking about this for a long time. I'm quite interested to see how the national debt gets divided up and how that influences things.

[-] BlameThePeacock@lemmy.ca 4 points 5 months ago

When the USSR broke apart, the Russians made an international agreement to pay back some of the debt. Pretty much entirely so that at least some creditors would have confidence enough to put more money in.

So probably something similar.

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[-] tal@lemmy.today 78 points 5 months ago

“The government seeks to imprison Mr Bannon for the four-month period leading up to the November election, when millions of Americans look to him for information on important campaign issues,” Bannon’s lawyer wrote.

Pretty sure that he can hire someone to post on Breitbart for him.

[-] FunderPants@lemmy.ca 66 points 5 months ago

If Trump is on probation, can Bannon even associate with him? Typically, you can't associate with criminals while on probation right?

[-] aeronmelon@lemmy.world 49 points 5 months ago

"We recognize that you need to be close to Trump, so we will allow you to be his bunkmate."

[-] Olhonestjim@lemmy.world 6 points 5 months ago

Imagine waking up to that turd every single day for years. Melania is an idiot to waste her life with him. But she deserves it.

[-] irreticent@lemmy.world 6 points 5 months ago

I almost felt sorry for her when I saw her facial expressions change the way they do when Donald looks at her then looks away and she looks so unhappy to put up with him... then I remembered that she knew what she signed up for and deserves all the misery she experiences being married to that bloviating fool.

[-] TransplantedSconie@lemm.ee 46 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Dudes gonna have the shakes bad behind those bars, lol.

He also gets to be tried for fraud while in jail lmao.

Wouldn't that be delicious if he's found guilty and remanded into custody until sentencing and never leaves jail?

[-] bcron@lemmy.world 39 points 5 months ago

"Keep me out of prison so I can be allowed the opportunity to do the same kinds of shit that got me in this pickle in the first place"

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 38 points 5 months ago

How hard did the judge have to try to hide their laughter?

[-] frezik@midwest.social 37 points 5 months ago

"I'm guilty of things I did to help Trump last time he was in office, and I should be let off because I'm instrumental in helping Trump get into office again".

[-] LostWanderer@lemmynsfw.com 36 points 5 months ago

ROFL That is the point, failing to adhere to any court orders means there are consequences for that violation. These MAGA fools need to feel the consequences of their actions to understand they can't play stupid games, it results in stupid prizes.

[-] whotookkarl@lemmy.world 36 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Employment is not a preclusion to imprisonment. If he wanted to stay out of prison maybe he should think about that before breaking the law and ignoring a congressional subpoena. If he didn't want it to happen during an election why did he appeal for 2 years first?

[-] irreticent@lemmy.world 12 points 5 months ago

Because he wanted it to happen during the campaign/election. They're doing this shit on purpose.

[-] Tyfud@lemmy.world 7 points 5 months ago

That's a bingo.

[-] takeda@lemmy.world 29 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

CAN SOMEONE PLEASE THINK OF THE FELONS?

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[-] MagicShel@programming.dev 24 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

He should just do like that one lawyer just did and ask if he can share a cell with Trump to keep working on his campaign.

[-] Etterra@lemmy.world 23 points 5 months ago

Hmmmmm no.

[-] InternetUser2012@midwest.social 22 points 5 months ago

Lock him the FUCK UP.

[-] aesthelete@lemmy.world 21 points 5 months ago

That's why he needs to be in prison, in the cell right next to Trump.

[-] AbidanYre@lemmy.world 19 points 5 months ago

Maybe he should have thought about that before committing crimes.

[-] Bapanada@kbin.earth 17 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Schadenfreude has never really been my thing, but what do you know? Seeing traitors finding out is super fun.

[-] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 17 points 5 months ago

Oh, Stevie NO! You can't go to prison. You've got culture war to pedal. We need you spreading bullshit and getting people angry. How can you do that if you can't be on your stupid little podcast? STEVIE!

[-] Nougat@fedia.io 15 points 5 months ago

This is the equivalent of "I can do whatever I want!"

[-] jeffw@lemmy.world 13 points 5 months ago

“I’m important!”

[-] HulkSmashBurgers@reddthat.com 15 points 5 months ago

What a sack of shit.

[-] Pistcow@lemm.ee 12 points 5 months ago

As a sack of shit, I find that offensive

[-] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 9 points 5 months ago

bannon is a sack of smashed asshole.

[-] normanwall@lemmy.world 12 points 5 months ago

Didn't Trump just have a meeting with his probation officer where he had to confirm he wasn't associating with criminals?

[-] Sam_Bass@lemmy.world 12 points 5 months ago

Stick that bastard down the deepest pit available so frump can go downwith him

[-] recapitated@lemmy.world 6 points 5 months ago

There's a weird part of me that wants this to work only if trump goes to prison anyway. I just want him in there fuming about his friend being out.

[-] Donjuanme@lemmy.world 6 points 5 months ago

Yet another lawsuit they're queuing up for why Trump lost again.

[-] Spitzspot@lemmings.world 5 points 5 months ago

Gold farmer

[-] Delusional@lemmy.world 4 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Lmao what exactly does he bring to trump's campaign? The dude is a waste of space/time/life.

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