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submitted 5 months ago by Kestrel@hexbear.net to c/urbanism@hexbear.net

This is hilarious. The U.S. Corps of Engineers has dangled a $42 million carrot to replenish sand on beaches in front of expensive houses but the homeowners don't want it at the expense of having to create public access easements (because federal dollars can only go towards improving public, not private, beaches). This town is going to get annihilated by the next big storm because these little tyrants want to keep their beaches private.

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[-] Adkml@hexbear.net 54 points 5 months ago

Literally rather rule the ashes than try to help stop the fire.

[-] Tankiedesantski@hexbear.net 34 points 5 months ago

Fighting fires is WOKE! Have you ever seen a fire engine? RED like the commies! I didn't spend two tours in 'nam spreading fire on [slurs] to go around putting them out now.

[-] Red_Sunshine_Over_Florida@hexbear.net 54 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Good riddance to all those giant homes parked on the coast. Let those avaricious dentists and real estate scam artists bleed from their check books for once instead of us. Do you all know how many I see with Trump signs on the front side? Nearly all of them. From Ormond Beach to St. Augustine, it's nonstop Trump signs along the coast. I never saw it with Mitt Romney or McCain, but as soon as they really started to crank up the immigrant scapegoating to 11, the signs all came out.

[-] Adkml@hexbear.net 38 points 5 months ago

Imagine being able to take a boat up and down the coast and seeing nature instead of a wall of mcmansions and private property signs.

Eminent domain everything within 1000' of high tide

[-] Red_Sunshine_Over_Florida@hexbear.net 31 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

It's beautiful country and I wish it belonged to everyone that way. Sometimes I wish I could see it 100, 200 years ago to see what we've lost. Right now it's being further destroyed by a bunch of rich retirees and fail chuds from the north who have no concept of environmental stewardship.

[-] culpritus@hexbear.net 30 points 5 months ago

Trump will nuke the hurricane to save the Florida boaters, but it just makes a tsunami and the hurricane becomes a radioactive category 7

[-] Red_Sunshine_Over_Florida@hexbear.net 25 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

To think this is an actual policy consideration and no longer just a one off joke from Idiocracy.

[-] rando895@lemmygrad.ml 10 points 5 months ago

Ignoring the human cost: this would be the most bad ass thing. Green swirling death clouds. Damn ....

[-] culpritus@hexbear.net 10 points 5 months ago

Maybe they will do a season of the Fallout show where this is a major plot point.

[-] frauddogg@lemmygrad.ml 8 points 5 months ago

I'm totally writing in "undying nuclear hurricane" into my tabletop Fallout setting. My vaulties are gonna love this one.

[-] Teapot@hexbear.net 9 points 5 months ago

Xi, please....

[-] LaGG_3@hexbear.net 44 points 5 months ago

I'd tell them to pound sand, but they might not have much left lol

[-] Bloobish@hexbear.net 41 points 5 months ago

Cannot wait to watch the slow then very rapid death of luxury housing along the Florida coastline.

[-] 7bicycles@hexbear.net 18 points 5 months ago

I think it's going to be more slow, very rapid, then slow again because well we had that once in a hundred year storm, then very rapid again shortly after, then sort of speedily after that

[-] Bloobish@hexbear.net 5 points 5 months ago

I think all it will take is another big storm with insurance defaults cause a massive development flight from Florida or at least the coastline which would create a overall effect of less bougie investments in lots of areas.

[-] ChaosMaterialist@hexbear.net 40 points 5 months ago

Ok, just-one-small-problem, I found the people who will buy those beachfront properties...

[-] Hexamerous@hexbear.net 22 points 5 months ago

The tax payers will foot the bill when the local government buy them out at retroactive "market value" right before the wall falls into the sea.

[-] frauddogg@lemmygrad.ml 7 points 5 months ago

FFFFFFFFFFECKING AQUAMAN?!

[-] footfaults@hexbear.net 40 points 5 months ago

Assholes would rather see their house sink into the ocean than allow anyone else to use the beach.

Fuck them

[-] reagansrottencorpse@lemmy.ml 35 points 5 months ago

How are these beaches private to begin with? I thought land right next to the ocean was basically accessible to the public.

Fucking private beach, get fucked.

[-] CHOPSTEEQ@lemmy.ml 29 points 5 months ago

It’s similarly bad on the west coast of Florida, south of Fort Myers. The massive Estero Bay is just on the edge of a huge population, and mercifully most of the mangroves between land and the water are protected, but all of the water access is privately owned either by hotels or golf club communities. Your average joe has to drive 30 minutes to the next closest boat launch and pay $40 minimum, or has an hour ride down the Estero river out to the bay or the Gulf.

I just don’t understand how they let this happen. I mean, I do.

[-] footfaults@hexbear.net 19 points 5 months ago

The issue is that there is no public access that connects the beaches to the rest of the land.

There was a similar case in California where rich assholes enclosed the common pathways that connected the beach to everything else

[-] tripartitegraph@hexbear.net 9 points 5 months ago

Public roads in Wyoming have stuff like this happen as well. A popular picnic stop at the top of a small mountain I went to once had a public road all the way to the top until a guy bought the land on both sides of the road and closed it off. Now you have to park about an hour's walk down and hoof it to the top.

[-] SacredExcrement@hexbear.net 26 points 5 months ago

Peak America, destroying your property (and everyone else's) because you don't want 'the poors' to be on 'your' beach

[-] FloridaBoi@hexbear.net 9 points 5 months ago

Boomer nimbyism is reaching levels I’ve never before witnessed

[-] Lovely_sombrero@hexbear.net 23 points 5 months ago

Yea, very funny. But even if they do this, won't sand just get eroded faster and faster over time? Shouldn't they try to do something more permanent?

[-] DefinitelyNotAPhone@hexbear.net 53 points 5 months ago

The permanent solution is not having people living anywhere in Florida that isn't 50+ ft in elevation above sea level, but good luck convincing the gusanos and small business tyrants that owning a mansion directly in the path of infinite category 5 hurricanes isn't a good idea.

[-] Kestrel@hexbear.net 36 points 5 months ago

The long term solution is managed retreat, but that's probably never going to be on the table.

[-] Assian_Candor@hexbear.net 26 points 5 months ago

Stuff like this is how it happens actually, chuds refuse to rebuild beaches (band aid fix anyway, if they figure out how to get it done this time, how about 10x from now?), coastal property gets wiped, insurers stop covering, people move away / abandon. Mother nature forces degrowth. True it would be a lot less painful with better planning but this is what "the market" gives you.

At least it's not like those poor fishermen in louisiana this time, you won't see me shedding any tears for the beautiful boaters

[-] GrouchyGrouse@hexbear.net 18 points 5 months ago

Good. Glad to see these wretched people have their shit wrecked. I have no fucks to give.

[-] Ishmael@hexbear.net 17 points 5 months ago

A surprisingly literal example of NIMBYs creating their own downfall

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