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[-] PunnyName@lemmy.world 87 points 1 year ago

That's because the US is a racist country. Some people just don't have their heads out of the sand yet.

[-] Chocrates@lemmy.world 96 points 1 year ago

I didn't get how bad we really are until Obama was elected. It broke people's brains. In hindsight I am still amazed we had a black president.

[-] asteriskeverything@lemmy.world 36 points 1 year ago

Dude Obama isn't that strange to me. He was seriously THE PERFECT "Black Man" and his family was a shining example of a perfect black family.

I dont mean to diminish what having a black man as president for two terms meant for many people around the country, small ripples possibly making it to the farthest reaches of the world. but come on. I'm white and at the time not particularly invested so much and even still I got the impression most of his energy was spent appeasing his peers who did not like him. And LBR that's gonna be all Republicans and the media outlets they influence , as well as the unique flavor of racist bigot that only a democrat/white person who loves you can provide.

/Drunk ramble thanks

[-] ThirdWorldOrder@lemm.ee 4 points 1 year ago

Funny you say that because the USA is one of the least racist countries I’ve ever lived in or visited.

Find me a country that isn’t racist at all in one way or another.

Also, why the fuck does this meme have to be about black people instead of why a felon is in the discussion to be President in the first place.

[-] sparkle@lemm.ee 14 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

You seem to be (purposefully) construing "the US is a racist country" as "the US is the most racist country". Racism does exist in other countries, and gets very bad in other countries as well, but the US is still fundamentally a racist country that pours a lot of resources into working against ethnic and racial minorities.

"White people would never let a black felon be president" is the point here because it constrasts with the current situation, which is "white people are letting a white felon be president" (at least it's a very real possibility). It's pointing out the discriminatory behaviours/thoughts persistent in American society, a felon being black is given significantly less leniency than a felon being white, and in general a black person is treated far worse and given far more obstacles than a white person for the same reasons. Especially by the majority racial demographic (white people). Any black candidate in Trump's position would be completely ruined and practically out of the race already, not celebrated by half the country.

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[-] norimee@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

Also, why the fuck does this meme have to be about black people

Because its not a meme, but an opinion from a person who shared his personal thoughts on the internet.

Not everything becomes a meme by screenshoting.

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[-] ThatWeirdGuy1001@lemmy.world 73 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

If the Jan 6th insurrection was performed by black people they'd have been mowed down on the steps without ever setting foot inside.

[-] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 23 points 1 year ago

Who can forget the classic portrayal of MLK in the run up to the March on Washington?

[-] Cethin@lemmy.zip 4 points 1 year ago

Yeah, they loved saying that he caused riots. It really removes the credibility of when they say other protesters are rioting. It's almost like they don't care how they behave and instead care about what they're asking for (and if they're "in their place").

[-] SkunkWorkz@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

It would have started hundreds of Tulsa race massacres across the country.

[-] LaterRedditor@lemmy.world 68 points 1 year ago

Also every Republicans were tough on crime until Trump was convicted

[-] Holzkohlen@feddit.de 23 points 1 year ago

Big on law and order, right until that law is used to prosecute insurrectionists. Hypocrites

[-] rayyy@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago
[-] ThirdWorldOrder@lemm.ee 4 points 1 year ago

Nah man go look at a lot of these clowns in the hate groups and you’ll see a lot of them are not even white. That leader of Proud Boys wasn’t even white. These are different days my friend.

[-] barsquid@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

They did not give a shit about ignoring evidence during Impeachment I, so well before that.

[-] Schadrach@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 1 year ago

Also every Republicans were tough on crime until Trump was convicted

Their still tough on crime, unless it's their candidate tried and convicted in a way that might impact an election - then he's not a "convicted felon" he's a "political prisoner", at least according to right wing Twitter.

His being rich and white probably has a lot to do with that too. Though I imagine if he were tried and convicted this time last year there'd be at least a little less crying about it, they'd just push Ron or Nikki as their candidate instead. His not being convicted until he's the only candidate and it's essentially too late to really run anyone else instead makes it "feel" more like it's using the criminal courts as a political attack vector rather than criminal justice doing it's normal thing, regardless of whether or not that's true.

[-] iamjackflack@lemm.ee 56 points 1 year ago

I mean republicans would never let ANYONE who is a convicted felon be president if they are not republican. It’s not just a race thing.

[-] Katana314@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago

It just about arguing in bad faith. You start with a conclusion you want in your mind, and then invent palatable excuses as to why that conclusion must be true.

It’s never been a logical route for their thoughts, just premise and emotion.

[-] HawlSera@lemm.ee 11 points 1 year ago

This is why playing the "Gotcha!" game with Republicans doesn't work, it's not that they have a flawed understanding of the world (They do, but that's not the point), it's that they will not interact with anything that isn't the conclusion they want.

[-] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

It’s never been a logical route for their thoughts

I've seen a few logical routes. I just don't like where they ended.

"The Road to Serfdom", "Free to Choose", "Human Action", "7 Habits of Highly Effective People", and "God and Man at Yale" all spell out a coherent and concrete conservative ideology. But where do those thoughts ultimately terminate?

We get to an ecology strip minded to its foundation in pursuit of that next quarter of profit. We get a patriarchal household bordering on the autocratic. We get ethnic micro-states, forever at war with one another over every sleight or perceived grievance or heresy. We get cults of personality who drive self-aggrandized individuals this way and that in pursuit of some reward in the afterlife. We get a police state armed to the teeth lined up in front of a loudspeaker that insists we're all entitled to unlimited freedom.

The logic is sound, because the axioms are built to inform us that these outcomes are what we want. This is the best of all possible worlds, the most we can ever hope for. And if we are dissatisfied with our lots in life, it is only because we failed in our commitment to pursue the ideology to its logical ends.

If anything, I would argue that modern conservatism is too logical. It is a rigid algorithm that refuses to acknowledge anything outside of its program and initial parameters. Conservatism is the logic of a boulder hurtling down a hill and into a vast sea, all the while telling the folks captured within "This is the natural way of things and could never have been improved in the slightest."

It is the illogical utopian leftists who are charged with fishing the big rock out of the ocean and trying to push it back up the hill again.

[-] Asafum@feddit.nl 3 points 1 year ago

It is the illogical utopian leftists who are charged with fishing the big rock out of the ocean and trying to push it back up the hill again.

All while conservatives have chained it to the sea floor because "this is where it was intended to belong. It fell here so it was gods will."

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[-] Mango@lemmy.world 22 points 1 year ago

Hopefully we won't let the orange one either.

[-] PhlubbaDubba@lemm.ee 21 points 1 year ago

How many people know at least one moron who'd say they did it for Obama because they assumed the black guy has a criminal history?

[-] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 7 points 1 year ago

I know some Truthers but even they believe in the existence of background checks.

[-] rez_doggie@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago

America was built around genocide

Nuh uh.

It was built on slavery too.

[-] Schadrach@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 1 year ago

Basically every nation in the world was built on those things - for most of them it just happened long enough ago that we ignore it. That and America imported most of it's slaves and relocated the locals rather than enslaving or absorbing them.

[-] sub_ubi@lemmy.ml 13 points 1 year ago

Every president in my lifetime should be a felon

[-] doingthestuff@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago

They all are, just not convicted

[-] ThirdWorldOrder@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago

Not sure how old you are but Jimmy Carter was pretty meek

[-] AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Most of us probably didn't see Carter in office. I technically did, but I was barely 3 months old when Reagan took office.

[-] ThirdWorldOrder@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago

I wasn’t born until ‘82 but the fact no one talks about him ever is probably good

[-] mynamesnotrick@lemmy.zip 9 points 1 year ago

I couldn't even fathom that vitriol if that was reality instead of the orange felon man that they love.

[-] Taako_Tuesday@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 year ago

Niche Psych reference with that name

[-] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 2 points 1 year ago
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